The AirTran Pilots' Windfall and SLI
12-16-2010, 04:02 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The super premium 737-800!
12-16-2010, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The super premium 737-800!
"...Kelly said the current plan is to take the 20 aircraft in 180-minute ETOPs configuration. The aircraft "would bring us to more distant markets like Hawaii, Cancun, Mexico, the Caribbean and Bermuda," he said..."
So... who gets credit for the -800?
12-17-2010, 06:57 AM
#83
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Originally Posted by RCD73
There is a pilot sitting in Dubai who left AirTran in May 2010. Four months prior to the Southwest announcement. He was a Captain on the 737 and left due to a serious case of 'Frustratous Fukyouallus'.
If you listen carefully during the evening you may hear a faint thudding sound. It's him, banging his forehead against the wall of his 'Villa'.
A sad, but true story.
If you listen carefully during the evening you may hear a faint thudding sound. It's him, banging his forehead against the wall of his 'Villa'.
A sad, but true story.
12-17-2010, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I wasn't serious about applying the term "super-premium" to this merger, but I was referring to the fact that some LUV pilots feel the 717 should be a category by itself... but the -800 is kind of interesting in a sense. Here is what LUV had to say about it when announcing the change in orders from -700's to -800's:
"...Kelly said the current plan is to take the 20 aircraft in 180-minute ETOPs configuration. The aircraft "would bring us to more distant markets like Hawaii, Cancun, Mexico, the Caribbean and Bermuda," he said..."
So... who gets credit for the -800?
"...Kelly said the current plan is to take the 20 aircraft in 180-minute ETOPs configuration. The aircraft "would bring us to more distant markets like Hawaii, Cancun, Mexico, the Caribbean and Bermuda," he said..."
So... who gets credit for the -800?
12-17-2010, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Fight's on! Where's my popcorn? Oh yeah... CLOONEY!
12-17-2010, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
There is something mildly amusing in some of the more delusional comments, but I'm not actually trying to egg them on. Instead, I am trying to convey the message that each side has valid arguments. Strategically, it doesn't pay for either union to ignore them in front of the arbitrator, nor is it smart to overplay one's hand. Psychologically, it pays for individual pilots to understand who you're dealing with, to acknowledge they have rights too, and to propare for the day where you will (inevitably) work together.
No doubt. I was referring to the more delusional ones of course... I mean WE still have those..
12-17-2010, 09:36 AM
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I find it funny that mastercraft has become silent as a mouse once people figured out his true motivation. Hopefully he can reconcile his bad luck and come to live with it. Otherwise I see a guy always grumbly about the position he thinks he should be in.
12-17-2010, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
20 year AAI Career expectation: 737 captain
20 year SWA Career expectation: 737 captain
20 year SWA Career expectation: 737 captain
The fairest way to do this is to put all the Pre-1992 SWA guys on the list and ratio the rest.
Period, end of story. No seniority windfalls. Pay differential is a non-starter.
Let's hope all these pilots, unlike USAir Easties, stick to their agreement to abide by the arbitrator's decision.
12-18-2010, 06:21 AM
#90
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Allowing the company to run two different operations would be a huge mistake. The SWA pilots are not going to make that mistake even if they have to go to arbitration for the SLI.
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