Why is fapa williing to give up so much?
06-11-2011, 10:47 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by Great Santini
I can only speak for myself, but I can assure you I will never want to be on your seniority list. If Frontier goes away, I will gladly run as fast as I can away from anything Republic. I think most Frontier pilots have no desire to fly for a regional or commuter again. We will either move on to other majors or do something else respectable for a living. A whole different talent pool here gang. Not just a bunch of ERAU grads with no other skill sets here.
06-11-2011, 10:51 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by Great Santini
And our pay freeze still pays double or triple the rate of the average RAH pilot, so don't throw stones at people taking pay freezes in exchange for ownership when you gross about what the F9 guys pay in taxes.
06-11-2011, 12:01 PM
#34
Che Guevara
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Originally Posted by Great Santini
We would rather succeed or fail on our own.
06-11-2011, 12:39 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Care to explain that a little more? And how did the IBT do anything to your career at all? What's changed because we're represented by the IBT?
06-11-2011, 12:53 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by Great Santini
And our pay freeze still pays double or triple the rate of the average RAH pilot, so don't throw stones at people taking pay freezes in exchange for ownership when you gross about what the F9 guys pay in taxes.
06-11-2011, 01:15 PM
#39
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Seems to be a lot of self-righteous BS from the RJ guys to me. The RJ has SINGLE HANDEDLY eviscerated the Mainline Airline Pilot Profession. Nothing worse than seeing 4 digit flight numbers on the FIDS Screen. UAL is down 50% in 10 years, how about the ENTIRE RJ "profession" walking out to protest the Chinese Coolie Labor provision ya'll work under? Maybe a look in the mirror may be more evocative of who is the PROBLEM in the "profession"
06-11-2011, 01:27 PM
#40
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DC7C,
Don't see how the RJ guys are responsible. They never voted on our outsourcing ... we did.
Expecting a pilot to refuse a job won't work, never has. We formed a union so we could negotiate protections for our senior pilots longevity and seniority. In the last fifteen years we have voted for contracts which have undone much of our predecessor's effort.
As far as "self righteous BS" goes, the Republic guys have done an excellent job controlling their scope. They have one list which spans multiple certificates. A technique ALPA would do well to emulate, IMHO.
No disrespect intended. But, you and I hold the power to fix this problem more than the Republic of F9 pilots do.
Don't see how the RJ guys are responsible. They never voted on our outsourcing ... we did.
Expecting a pilot to refuse a job won't work, never has. We formed a union so we could negotiate protections for our senior pilots longevity and seniority. In the last fifteen years we have voted for contracts which have undone much of our predecessor's effort.
As far as "self righteous BS" goes, the Republic guys have done an excellent job controlling their scope. They have one list which spans multiple certificates. A technique ALPA would do well to emulate, IMHO.
No disrespect intended. But, you and I hold the power to fix this problem more than the Republic of F9 pilots do.
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