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Old 08-25-2011 | 05:26 PM
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Really? Rumor has it a training manager from Airtran came over to Delta to look at setting up a program that could tie it in with the MD88? (which FAA nixed anyway)
Come on.. you expect us to believe that? the cockpits are completely different.

No offense to Airtran guys, because a good friend of mine is a CA there, but Delta manuals and training would be completely different than Airtran's. All Delta's manuals are in a certain format - it would make for a difficult transition to use another airline's style of writing and procedures.
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Old 08-25-2011 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
you guys at american delta and united have 3 of the biggest contract votes in the history of our industry coming your way. TO quote airplane "good luck we are all counting on you" Skywest announces this thing how they are going to buy hundreds of replacement planes and incase people didnt know Trans States Holding Co also has signed intent to buy that mitsubishi regional jet. These are bold moves by CEO's of regionals that think that you guys are going to cave and give in on scope. Pinnacle also has a lot of options on the q 400 as well and they are making a stretch 90 seat version of that so dont count that plane out of scope either. A lot of us regional guys are pulling for you in this battle. We fly the planes we are told to fly. Don't let us fly anything bigger unless I am swinging gear for you (which i am pretty good at i might add)
Dont, quit if you dont like it.
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Old 08-25-2011 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Dont, quit if you dont like it.
Really? You sound like you have it all figured out. So the best option for those guys is what? Finish flight school and apply to Fedex, SWA, and DAL because thats where they really want to work right?

I don't know where you work (Doesn't matter really) but the majors gave up that flying and the problem started here and it is our job to stop the leak. People are not going to quit their job and stop feeding their kids because its better for your QOL.

In case you mean't something else, sorry and carry on.
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Old 08-25-2011 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by check essential
they are taking another look at the 50 seaters.
Could be part of our new atlantic strategy.

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Old 08-25-2011 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Come on.. you expect us to believe that? the cockpits are completely different.

No offense to Airtran guys, because a good friend of mine is a CA there, but Delta manuals and training would be completely different than Airtran's. All Delta's manuals are in a certain format - it would make for a difficult transition to use another airline's style of writing and procedures.
CAL flies all models of the 737 and there is a huge difference in the -500 and -900 models. They routinely fly both types in a single day.
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Old 08-25-2011 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Dont, quit if you dont like it.
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Old 08-25-2011 | 09:45 PM
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The tittle of this thread mentions 100-seats not a MD-88 replacement. IMHO, DAL needs a DC9-30 replacement more than a DC9-40/50/88 replacement right now. A 100 seater would work wonders in those former Heartland markets like GFK and FAR which now see a mix of CR2s, CR7s, CR9s, E70s, E75s, 32Ss and M88s. A true 100-seater like the CS-100, a 98-seater like the ARJ21-900 or a 106-seater like the B717 would right size some markets offer a more homogeneous gauge of equipment and reclaim scope where the M88 and 32S might be too big.
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Old 08-25-2011 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Come on.. you expect us to believe that? the cockpits are completely different.

No offense to Airtran guys, because a good friend of mine is a CA there, but Delta manuals and training would be completely different than Airtran's. All Delta's manuals are in a certain format - it would make for a difficult transition to use another airline's style of writing and procedures.
Yes, and the FAA nixed it. They were hoping to make a single category that included some Saudi MD90s with the more advanced cockpit, and 717s. Can you believe that now?
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Old 08-25-2011 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Maddoggin
The regionals are never going to pay enough to keep people there long term if given a choice.
Even BEFORE 9/11 as some regional CBA's were getting better (ACA, AWAC, ASA, COMAIR, etc) that was being disproven. Post 9/11, as well as post economic recession, that's being disproven again. Not that I agree with it. But it's true. If you were to take a look at the top half of most regional seniority lies, you'd be surprised at 1) How long many have been there and 2) that they have NO intention of leaving.

AGAIN, I don't really care what somebody does with their career. But the six figure income/good schedule/home a lot/senior regional types aren't going anywhere. And that's fine with me, it just means they'll stay the hell out of my way when applying to a better job.

Originally Posted by iaflyer
Come on.. you expect us to believe that? the cockpits are completely different.
As others have mentioned, you ever seen the inside of the 737's that various airline's pilots can fly in a single day?
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Old 08-26-2011 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Yes, and the FAA nixed it. They were hoping to make a single category that included some Saudi MD90s with the more advanced cockpit, and 717s. Can you believe that now?
From what I was told the FAA said they'd approve it... if everyone went to training every 90 days. Obviously not an option. Shizit pointed out that the three types, our planes, the Saudi 90s and the 717s have different FCPs among other differences but I dont know whatthe FAA thinks about that stuff.

The hung about CALs operation is they combine the 752, 753, 762 and 764 into one category. I believe all it requires is for the classics to have a PFD with a speed tape and you can bounce between them all.

Right now the 88 and DC9 are separate categories. To me seems like they should be able to run 717s as separate especially if they can pick up extra 717s from someone who doesn't want theirs.

I've got folks who've mentioned that we have folks here at DAL that recently did the quick 717 differences course. Not sure if that is true but that was from a year ago.
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