Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 1471414)

Yeah, I know, that's how you got your seniority. And that is how it has been everyday of your employment here. Yet you stay.

WE ARE A BELOW AVERAGE AIRLINE, IN ALMOST EVERY WAY! THAT IS REALITY!

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 1471414)

WE ARE A BELOW AVERAGE AIRLINE, IN ALMOST EVERY WAY! THAT IS REALITY!

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 1471386)

You say you will explain (help me) how all "costs" are not actually costs, I guess implying once again that labor costs don't actually cost the company anything, or that the company has some special secret account with unlimited funds just for labor costs. But you didn't explain anything. Just another statement that you speak the truth, no proof or explanation or convincing logic, just a statement.

Should we pilots suffer because management didn't have a power by the hour MX agreement, no. But guess what, WE ALREADY ARE. Slower growth hurts my career, and they slowed growth because of the extra MX expenses. But, that was not the point, and you know it. You intentionally changed the subject away from why they slowed growth. It was not because the E90 needed more mx than planned, THEY SLOWED THE GROWTH BECAUSE THEIR COSTS (EXPENSES) WENT UP.

Airlines fund growth through free cash flow or debt. Free cash flow is revenue over and above ALL expenses. When your expenses go up, whatever the reason, you have less free cash flow to fund growth and other investments. You can try and raise revenue, but if it were that easy, ALL airlines would just simply turn the revenue dial up to max...

Ultimately, costs, no matter the source, MUST be paid, and the money to pay them is limited. Period.

Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 1471425)

In terms of productivity, really?

Below AK and AT who negotiated better contracts?



JJ

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 1471434)

Productivity good, I guess that makes us equivalent to Delta Air Lines Corporation.......

The same company that just made more money in ONE month than we have made in 5 years. Way to go.

Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 1471366)

He a-- do you tell this to any of the clowns that ask for a ride?
I have a feeling you are just some internet tough guy.

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 1471497)

Just because we post a 30ish million dollar profit doesn't mean that there isn't more money. We are paying cash for planes terminals and hotels. How much money flows to live tv? Don't be a blind fool.

What are afraid of losing? Your 7-10 year upgrade?

Originally Posted by Snarge (Post 1471504)

I like Transcons best.... 5 hours to de-program the blue juicers....

While we are all screwed, having representation has its benefits...

As mentioned, benefits alone... after 5 years of medical premiums, with the difference I get a new car. plus 16% of hourly rate in my retirement.....

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 1471565)

Thanks. Great for you. Do you feel like a big bada%% now?

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 1471544)

You mentioned terminals and airplanes, both are growth related, and you mention them to prove that there is money for more compensation. However, you fail miserably with any attempt to demonstrate there is enough money for compensation improvements AND GROWTH.

And yes, why would I want my 7-10 year upgrade to be a 15-18 year upgrade????