Wow good for you.
Please help me get a job at your airline.
What was it like when your company was bk and what were the furloughed guys getting?
I would like a union as well but guys like you don't help the cause.
Things must be perfect at your airline since you have the time to come bash "blue clowns"

Yes airTran was doing very well that's why they fought off southwest.

Haha. And you think we will? $8 a share and this place is sold.

Typical unionista bull crap.

I'm sorry, but anyone making double, triple or quadruple the national average HOUSEHOLD income cannot be called a slave.

That's about right....$8.50 is the magic number right now.

JetBlue's business model is and has been to grow, but it has NEVER been to compensate its pilots at full industry average (which only includes airlines that are way above our boxing weight). I have confidence in that model. I do believe JB could now pay those levels of compensation, but at the expense of a high growth rate. Choices must be made.

JB has never fully "met the cost of doing business", not since the day you were hired, or before. Never have. That was good enough for you when you got hired and needed a bunch of seniority......

Alaska and Airtran have much more mature networks and revenue streams. They are also much slower growing. Growth is a punch-line among Alaska pilots, but hey, they have better pay and benefits. Its funny, when you were junior, you chose the high growth, lower pay model, but now......

And again, Alaska is more profitable, but they are NOT more profitable BECAUSE they pay better. They have a different network, different code share setup, regional monopolies and 80+ years of corporate and network maturaties. And better management.

You keep suggesting we are an airline that we are not. We are not the airlines in our peer set , not even close.

I am not trying to help your cause... you guys failed yourselves... I've told my union not to spend anymore dues money on you people.

The furloughed guys were at least getting medical, through mutual aid. Valid point... you were making a paycheck... we'll see how the JB business plan works for you guys. take a look at historical start ups.... you are not SWA.....



You make that because of market forces and union wages.

You have no voice in your employment and no political voice in govt. A political voice for safety or pay/benefits. You have no professional status. You don't serve the public good with a safety structure, accident investigation, etc... You've no code of ethics.... you show up, work, go home. When your told, were you are told, how you are told.

If you got bought or merged you pilots will be voiceless, stapled and screwed. With a little union precedence and law to help you out.

Good luck.

We'd be extremely lucky to get stapled.

Did they drop the asking price? I thought the BOD was holding out for something ridiculous like $12/share.

"If" and when you guys grow, it wont be due to your Pilot compensation model.


Are you a Pilot or a general employee? You have over 15000 employees. You don't have to concern yourself with the compensation levels of the remaining 12500 lesser trained employees. Why don't you Pilots negotiate industry standard compensation? I don't know how many E190 drivers you have. Seems like it may only be 1700 Airbus guys who need a raise? And, you think this would stop the Airline in it's tracks?


You "are" a Pilot aren't you????

Or, are you? You don't seem to be on the side of Pilots.


Trent