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Old 09-11-2013 | 12:39 PM
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Ok, so here's something to debate over:

I'm considering putting forth 3 resolutions regarding election of ALPA leadership.

Currently, we have a system where our MEC chairs are elected by the reps, thus being one level removed away from the membership. Then, national leadership is a second level removed away from the membership. Additionally, all the committee types are appointed and not elected. I believe that can (and has in the past) promote a good ol' boys club or inner circle type environment that is a major cause of the DPA movement gaining so much traction.

I propose:

Membership vote for MEC leadership

Membership vote for committee chairs

This is more complex, but a representative membership vote for national leads. Since all the associations vote, I propose that for the x% proportion of our population that votes for candidate A, that x% of the MEC has to vote for that candidate. For y% for candidate B, y% (to the nearest integer) of reps have to vote for candidate B. Sort of an electorate type system.

Thoughts?
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Old 09-11-2013 | 12:58 PM
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Anyone else notice it wasn't TC that signed the latest DPA email?
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Old 09-11-2013 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Anyone else notice it wasn't TC that signed the latest DPA email?
I did It was a simple letter with many achievable goals. I hope part of those goals thwart the Mideast Carriers' plans to invade the USA.

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Old 09-11-2013 | 01:17 PM
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Well this is so hypocritical, that it's unbelievable.

The last communication from our ALPA MEC chairman was angry and personal. Let's keep the emotion out of this business decision. There is no us versus them. America is the greatest country on earth because of our freedom to debate, to question, to complain. Let's have the vote, and unify behind the winner and share the success we all so richly deserve.

Captain Jerry J. Fielding, Jr.
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Old 09-11-2013 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
I did It was a simple letter with many achievable goals. I hope part of those goals thwart the Mideast Carriers' plans to invade the USA.

TEN
Achievable? Yes. Through DPA? No.
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Old 09-11-2013 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Well this is so hypocritical, that it's unbelievable.
I have utmost respect for the senior line Captain that wrote this letter. He really doesnt need to do anything but fly his senior trips and get paid. Maybe DALPA needs a few guys like this to run the show.

Originally Posted by johnso29
Achievable? Yes. Through DPA? No.
We dont know that, do we? Im willing to take the risk if DALPA/ALPA does not change their ways.

TEN
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Old 09-11-2013 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
I have utmost respect for the senior line Captain that wrote this letter. He really doesnt need to do anything but fly his senior trips and get paid. Maybe DALPA needs a few guys like this to run the show.



We dont know that, do we? Im willing to take the risk if DALPA/ALPA does not change their ways.

TEN
I flew with a captain who advised me "Never vote for anyone senior to you, they'll screw anyone underneath them."

I don't agree with that philosophy either, btw...

Changing the bargaining agent won't fix the problem. getting to know who is working for you and making sure you get quality people doing the job is the only way to improve things...
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Old 09-11-2013 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
I have utmost respect for the senior line Captain that wrote this letter. He really doesnt need to do anything but fly his senior trips and get paid. Maybe DALPA needs a few guys like this to run the show.



We dont know that, do we? Im willing to take the risk if DALPA/ALPA does not change their ways.

TEN
It is interesting that Caplinger didn't write this one. It was far better written, and there was thick irony in him calling out ALPA for an emotional tirade... the guy he replaced has shown quite the propensity for emotional tirades. I do hope he does more writing for them. I could actually make it more than a couple lines in without rolling my eyes and moving on!
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Old 09-11-2013 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Ok, so here's something to debate over:

I'm considering putting forth 3 resolutions regarding election of ALPA leadership.

Currently, we have a system where our MEC chairs are elected by the reps, thus being one level removed away from the membership. Then, national leadership is a second level removed away from the membership. Additionally, all the committee types are appointed and not elected. I believe that can (and has in the past) promote a good ol' boys club or inner circle type environment that is a major cause of the DPA movement gaining so much traction.

I propose:

Membership vote for MEC leadership

Membership vote for committee chairs

This is more complex, but a representative membership vote for national leads. Since all the associations vote, I propose that for the x% proportion of our population that votes for candidate A, that x% of the MEC has to vote for that candidate. For y% for candidate B, y% (to the nearest integer) of reps have to vote for candidate B. Sort of an electorate type system.

Thoughts?
Do you conceive these as changes to the Constitution and Bylaws via BOD action?
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Old 09-11-2013 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Do you conceive these as changes to the Constitution and Bylaws via BOD action?
Whatever gets it done....
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