Delta Representation Discussion
09-18-2013 | 01:59 PM
#611
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Recruiting in the pilot lounge? If they're handing out material that's a big NO NO. If you see that, I believe it needs to be reported to the company. From what I've been told, neither union is allowed to advocate for themselves on company property.
I believe it's ok if they're just talking to you.
I believe it's ok if they're just talking to you.
09-18-2013 | 02:03 PM
#612
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No they were aggressively recruiting. I'll have to check my schedule but I'd say 3 of the 4 weekends I've worked in the last 6 weeks they've been at JFK with paraphernalia. They were physically outside the lounge last time I saw them but they right come up like a panhandler. The reporting thing sounds a little harsh? The chief pilot should be able to just look at the tape and figure it out if it's that critical.
Agree?
09-18-2013 | 02:08 PM
#613
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I've seen them in and out nearly always after hours. There's also a guy in ATL who tried to press a DPA card into my hand when I walked through like a guy tipping the Maitre D after he gets a good table for his dame.
09-18-2013 | 02:35 PM
#614
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All I'm saying is AFAIK neither union is allowed to advocate for themselves on company property. We need to keep a level playing field. And regardless of which orginization we support, we should be able to rest, socialize, sleep, whatever in our lounge without being bothered. Outside the lounge is ok.
Agree?
Agree?
09-18-2013 | 06:52 PM
#616
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Which CP's? If it were actually as the rumors you're spreading, the CPO would have put out a memo. They haven't that I've seen.
Nothing prohibits a pilot from talking to another pilot about a topic of interest. I've never seen anything other than respectful behavior from DPA guys talking about it to other pilots.
Carl
Nothing prohibits a pilot from talking to another pilot about a topic of interest. I've never seen anything other than respectful behavior from DPA guys talking about it to other pilots.
Carl
09-18-2013 | 07:01 PM
#617
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
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Published guidance to the Flight Attendants on the AFA drive ...
It would not surprise me if ALPA's guidance tended on the conservative side to avoid unnecessary issues. By it's nature the DPA would be more difficult to hold accountable.
There is probably more specific guidance in the HRPM.
No they were aggressively recruiting. I'll have to check my schedule but I'd say 3 of the 4 weekends I've worked in the last 6 weeks they've been at JFK with paraphernalia. They were physically outside the lounge last time I saw them but they right come up like a panhandler. The reporting thing sounds a little harsh? The chief pilot should be able to just look at the tape and figure it out if it's that critical.
Originally Posted by Solicitation Activities
Solicitation or Advocacy activities by Delta people on Delta premises are permitted only in non-work and non-operational areas, such as lounges and break rooms, and only during a person’s non-working time.
• An aircraft is always a work/operations area. Solicitation or advocacy activities are not permitted on board the aircraft at any time.
• Other work areas include gatehouses, jetways, briefing rooms and the ramp.
• Parking lots are considered non-work areas, but solicitation activities must not interfere with traffic or harass people.
• If an area in a lounge or break room is used for work and non-work purposes, solicitation or advocacy activities are permitted in that area only when it is not being used for work purposes.
• Solicitation or advocacy activities may never be undertaken in a harassing manner or in a manner that interferes with people who do not wish to be solicited.
• An aircraft is always a work/operations area. Solicitation or advocacy activities are not permitted on board the aircraft at any time.
• Other work areas include gatehouses, jetways, briefing rooms and the ramp.
• Parking lots are considered non-work areas, but solicitation activities must not interfere with traffic or harass people.
• If an area in a lounge or break room is used for work and non-work purposes, solicitation or advocacy activities are permitted in that area only when it is not being used for work purposes.
• Solicitation or advocacy activities may never be undertaken in a harassing manner or in a manner that interferes with people who do not wish to be solicited.
There is probably more specific guidance in the HRPM.
09-18-2013 | 07:03 PM
#618
Can't abide NAI
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
No wide stances or sideways glances.
09-18-2013 | 07:31 PM
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Which CP's? If it were actually as the rumors you're spreading, the CPO would have put out a memo. They haven't that I've seen.
Nothing prohibits a pilot from talking to another pilot about a topic of interest. I've never seen anything other than respectful behavior from DPA guys talking about it to other pilots.
Carl
Nothing prohibits a pilot from talking to another pilot about a topic of interest. I've never seen anything other than respectful behavior from DPA guys talking about it to other pilots.
Carl
And where did I imply unprofessional behavior?
Recruiting in the pilot lounge? If they're handing out material that's a big NO NO. If you see that, I believe it needs to be reported to the company. From what I've been told, neither union is allowed to advocate for themselves on company property.
I believe it's ok if they're just talking to you.
I believe it's ok if they're just talking to you.
09-18-2013 | 10:15 PM
#620
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From: C560XL/XLS/XLS+
Which CP's? If it were actually as the rumors you're spreading, the CPO would have put out a memo. They haven't that I've seen.
Nothing prohibits a pilot from talking to another pilot about a topic of interest. I've never seen anything other than respectful behavior from DPA guys talking about it to other pilots.
Carl
Nothing prohibits a pilot from talking to another pilot about a topic of interest. I've never seen anything other than respectful behavior from DPA guys talking about it to other pilots.
Carl
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