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Old 05-20-2015, 12:38 PM
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A caveat to this mil preference is hiring needs to be "current and qualified mil pilots".

I've got a couple of military pilot friends who have very little chance of being hired because they've been in a desk job for the last assignment of their career. That makes it tough, not impossible, but tough to get hired on at a major airline.
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Old 05-20-2015, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux View Post
A caveat to this mil preference is hiring needs to be "current and qualified mil pilots".

I've got a couple of military pilot friends who have very little chance of being hired because they've been in a desk job for the last assignment of their career. That makes it tough, not impossible, but tough to get hired on at a major airline.
I would imagine that they could improve their chances significantly if they were willing to work at a regional for a short while they would probably be picked up pretty quickly.
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Old 05-20-2015, 12:57 PM
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I would imagine that they could improve their chances significantly if they were willing to work at a regional for a short while they would probably be picked up pretty quickly.
Maybe, maybe not. It's probably not a lot of mil guys in that situation, but it could help.

I've got a friend in the same situation though, he was in a staff job for final three years, was lucky enough to get picked up by a regional and now he's current. Problem is, for the last year he's been unable to get out of that regional. I don't know if being an FO has anything to do with it or not.
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This guaranteed job. To whom do I apply for it?

The quote was "almost..."
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:26 PM
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I also have a statistically significant amount of fellow military aviators wondering where the sign up for that is.
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:29 PM
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It *IS* tough to get hired at a major if you're non-current.

It *ISN'T* tough to get hired at a regional if you're non-current.

Second sentence fixes the first problem.

Guys with mil/121 experience are getting a lot of attention. By getting a regional job after the military you check off several squares -

121 experience
121 training
new type rating
recent vetting by new employer
new training cycle (some carriers require, or have required, new training event within X years)
currency(!) if they've been in a staff job

And the reality is the candidate will be better off for the interviews, sim checks, and training, at his final choice if he's put in foot into the civilian 121 market.

I *specifically* asked one of the decision makers "do they have to be current, and in a flying job, to get hired?" Answer was no... "but the next question will be 'when was the last time you were a professional pilot?' And why should I hire you when thousands of guys are current and applying?"
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:49 PM
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If there are two desk guys up for the job, and one has figured a way to stay current, the other is just sitting on his dupa..who you gonna pick?
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Old 05-20-2015, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by asacimesp View Post
It's one thing to have a "preference" but when 15/16 interviewees are mil... And the next day is 10/12 when they they make up a small subset of aviation it's a bias.
That's an interesting take. At WAI Delta and United both showed stats for new hires and they each had roughly 45% pure military and 45% pure civilian with the remaining 10% a mixture of both backgrounds. Definitely a military bias in the hiring pool as a whole.
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Old 05-20-2015, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
It *IS* tough to get hired at a major if you're non-current.

It *ISN'T* tough to get hired at a regional if you're non-current.

Second sentence fixes the first problem.

Guys with mil/121 experience are getting a lot of attention. By getting a regional job after the military you check off several squares -

121 experience
121 training
new type rating
recent vetting by new employer
new training cycle (some carriers require, or have required, new training event within X years)
currency(!) if they've been in a staff job

And the reality is the candidate will be better off for the interviews, sim checks, and training, at his final choice if he's put in foot into the civilian 121 market.

I *specifically* asked one of the decision makers "do they have to be current, and in a flying job, to get hired?" Answer was no... "but the next question will be 'when was the last time you were a professional pilot?' And why should I hire you when thousands of guys are current and applying?"
PM question sent.

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Old 05-21-2015, 03:24 AM
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