Personally I'd rate high time young guys, with a good career path and other attributes, highly. Their resumes probably show a great drive, and love, of the industry. Throw in a personality that likes to laugh, kid around, and at the same time demonstrates an awareness of the professionalism needed in the business and, to me at least, it's a winning combination. Anyone know how to demonstrate that through a computer program? I don't. But maybe at a job fair...

That's why being able to tell your story, in under two minutes, with no gaps or mistakes so it doesn't become a resume grinding review(when was this? Where? What's this gap?), is important. Now you can relax a bit and respond naturally to the questions, or interests, the reviewer wants to go over.

 

Not true. United has a history of lawsuits against the HR department and no one involved in hiring would every say this. If someone did say that then they are removed from the process and it is as good as rumor. Their average new hire is right around 5500 TT but that is skewed because of military, well connected, and interns. The average regional guy with no special boxes checked is well above 9000 tt with multiple types and generally has maxed out the points from letters of rec. Most of the people I interviewed with had 10,000+ hours. How many letters does it take to max out the points? The people that know are not talking.

 

Good point.

A friend of mine at UAL a while back had over 10K TT, 2 types, 4k TPIC. One of the LOWEST time and least type ratings in their class. And in their mid 30's they were the "8 ball".

And not surprising, but the class after had an average that was lower in almost all categories.

 

And then there's the white male, early 30's, goes to job fair after job fair after job fair after job.... All the major recruiting teams know him on a first name basis. Probably 5,000 hrs TT. Regional FO. Doing a bunch of flight department work. Upgrades and immediately gets hired with probably less than 100 hrs TPIC.

Or a 28 yr old, four type ratings, international heavy jet experience, regional experience, and corporate TPIC time. He identified weaknesses in his resume and worked on correcting those deficiencies. He also got hired.

So it's not just a numbers game, or some anti civilian, or anti white male, program. Figure out what boxes you havn't checked, or are weak in, and improve your resume.

Anyone think that perhaps the people getting two or three offers might be that impressive, at least on paper? And then they get to prove themselves via the F2F?

 

Some good discussion here. I hate to hijack a "who's been hired" thread but going along with the current theme, I've heard a few things I was hoping someone could clarify regarding United:

At NGPA I met with BK. His advice to me was to "keep coming to these things." At WAI, a recruiter told me job fairs actually don't count towards anything. You don't get points, extra credit, or anything like that. His/her explanation was that "one of us might be doing your interview, so it's good that you've already met one of us."

Also, that letters of recommendation aren't even weighed/scored until your interview. AND I've heard that they only count up to 4 of them. He/she said that internals are weighed the same as externals, with the exception of an internal CP letter being worth more. When I ask "what can I do to help my chances of being offered an interview" I keep being told to get as many letters as I can. Then, 5 minutes later, they tell me they aren't even considered until AFTER the interview. What gives?

 

I asked the HR woman I met with during my Fast Pass if being at WAI made any difference and she said it was our chance to have a face to face and ask any questions we might have. She did say that if someone makes an outstanding impression it can accelerate the process, but that's it.

United hiring brief put out the same information.

Conversely, if you meet with DAL at a job fair they'll score your app.

It's all smoke and mirrors to me at this point.

 

SWA CJO

8000TT
3000 TPIC
4200 in 737's - 1700 PIC in type
4-year degree
LCA background
Expat

No job fairs

 

Congrats!!!! Expat as in you flew overseas for a foreign carrier just prior to the CJO or you are a foreign pilot? I suspect it's the former?

 

United CJO

Initial email and Hogan 2/12
Interview invite 2/15
Interview 3/10
CJO 3/16
Expecting early May class

4700 TT
1500 TPIC
400 Part 121
2700 Part 135

Job Fair/ Chief Pilot M&G/ Hiring Webinar (no idea if this helps at all)

6 internal recommendations including one from the Chief Pilot after we met.

Consider myself very lucky for the opportunity.

 

Thank you! Definitely not a foreign pilot... my airline collapsed in 2008 so I went overseas.