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12-09-2013, 03:11 PM
#371
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,443
Originally Posted by John Carr
It makes PERFECT sense of why they'd want to see fitness reports.
However, it adds a twist to view the preference of military based on the "know quantity" and "they know what they're getting".
Almost as if that can now be called into question somewhat.
However, it adds a twist to view the preference of military based on the "know quantity" and "they know what they're getting".
Almost as if that can now be called into question somewhat.
Also, the grades for someone who is either retiring or separating are probably going to be "team player" grades that are given to boost the careers of those still on the "golden path", so they aren't a true reflection of performance.
Unless they are using it as an additional sanity check (did this guy lie and he wasn't really the Operations Officer or Safety Officer?), I don't see the real purpose.
12-09-2013, 04:27 PM
#372
Works Every Weekend
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: 737 ATL
Posts: 3,506
Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Fitness Reports are sort of a joke. They all make you sound like you walk on water. There are a few key words and tricky phrases to pick out, but only someone with a deep background in Navy Air would have any idea how to infer those things from the white noise.
"Jones is an excellent officer. Demonstrated great potential."
12-10-2013, 09:24 AM
#373
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by John Carr
It makes PERFECT sense of why they'd want to see fitness reports.
However, it adds a twist to view the preference of military based on the "know quantity" and "they know what they're getting".
Almost as if that can now be called into question somewhat.
However, it adds a twist to view the preference of military based on the "know quantity" and "they know what they're getting".
Almost as if that can now be called into question somewhat.
12-10-2013, 10:32 AM
#374
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,671
Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Not to judge, it is their game and they can make the rules: but for the most part, in the Navy anyway, Fitness Reports are sort of a joke. They all make you sound like you walk on water. There are a few key words and tricky phrases to pick out, but only someone with a deep background in Navy Air would have any idea how to infer those things from the white noise. You would have to be a real d-bag to have a Fitrep that sounds even neutral to someone who isn't in the military.
Also, the grades for someone who is either retiring or separating are probably going to be "team player" grades that are given to boost the careers of those still on the "golden path", so they aren't a true reflection of performance.
Unless they are using it as an additional sanity check (did this guy lie and he wasn't really the Operations Officer or Safety Officer?), I don't see the real purpose.
Also, the grades for someone who is either retiring or separating are probably going to be "team player" grades that are given to boost the careers of those still on the "golden path", so they aren't a true reflection of performance.
Unless they are using it as an additional sanity check (did this guy lie and he wasn't really the Operations Officer or Safety Officer?), I don't see the real purpose.
Originally Posted by gloopy
Nah, if anything I think it adds weight to the point of view that mil apps are preferred to some degree precicely because of the "known quantity" concept. How many mil pilots actually get truly bad fitreps anyway. Its just a company doing its due diligence. For the civvie side theres PRIA, rehire eligibility, LOR's and signing something saying you permit them to follow up on your sick leave, etc. If civilian airlines had an equivalent to fitreps that the company could get its hands on, there is a 100% chance they would want that as well.
12-11-2013, 02:54 AM
#375
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 471
UK Fitness Reports
The British Military writes EPR's (officer fitness reports). The form used for Royal Navy and Marines fitness reports is the S206. The following are actual excerpts taken from people's "206's"....
- His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of curiosity.
- I would not breed from this Officer.
- This Officer is really not so much of a has-been, but more of a definitely won't-be.
- When she opens her mouth, it seems that this is only to change whichever foot was previously in there.
- He has carried out each and every one of his duties to his entire satisfaction.
- He would be out of his depth in a car park puddle.
- Technically sound, but socially impossible.
- This Officer reminds me very much of a gyroscope - always spinning around at a frantic pace, but not really going anywhere.
- This young lady has delusions of adequacy.
- When he joined my ship, this Officer was something of a granny; since then he has aged considerably.
- This Medical Officer has used my ship to carry his genitals from port to port, and my officers to carry him from bar to bar.
- Since my last report he has reached rock bottom, and has started to dig.
- She sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them.
- He has the wisdom of youth, and the energy of old age.
- This Officer should go far - and the sooner he starts, the better.
- In my opinion this pilot should not be authorized to fly below 250 feet.
- This man is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
- The only ship I would recommend this man for is citizenship.
- Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a trap. Contributed by: Bill Cleves
- His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of curiosity.
- I would not breed from this Officer.
- This Officer is really not so much of a has-been, but more of a definitely won't-be.
- When she opens her mouth, it seems that this is only to change whichever foot was previously in there.
- He has carried out each and every one of his duties to his entire satisfaction.
- He would be out of his depth in a car park puddle.
- Technically sound, but socially impossible.
- This Officer reminds me very much of a gyroscope - always spinning around at a frantic pace, but not really going anywhere.
- This young lady has delusions of adequacy.
- When he joined my ship, this Officer was something of a granny; since then he has aged considerably.
- This Medical Officer has used my ship to carry his genitals from port to port, and my officers to carry him from bar to bar.
- Since my last report he has reached rock bottom, and has started to dig.
- She sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them.
- He has the wisdom of youth, and the energy of old age.
- This Officer should go far - and the sooner he starts, the better.
- In my opinion this pilot should not be authorized to fly below 250 feet.
- This man is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
- The only ship I would recommend this man for is citizenship.
- Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a trap. Contributed by: Bill Cleves
12-11-2013, 05:24 AM
#377
No longer cares
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Originally Posted by Chinabug
No calls for a few months after retirement...2 calls/emails in 2 days (SWA/DAL) and hired by both. Crazy timing and was a fun month!
Good luck.
Good luck.
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Geez, the suspense is killing me!
Who are you going to choose?
Denny
Who are you going to choose?Denny
12-11-2013, 05:53 AM
#378
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: MD88A
Posts: 309
Folks - apply, get the interview, do you best. Your background, unless there are issues, is of little revelance in the long run. The qualified will be hired. preiod.
Best of luck to all - new hires are needed at several airlines.
Best of luck to all - new hires are needed at several airlines.
12-12-2013, 04:02 AM
#379
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Originally Posted by jethikoki
The British Military writes EPR's (officer fitness reports). The form used for Royal Navy and Marines fitness reports is the S206. The following are actual excerpts taken from people's "206's"....
- His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of curiosity.
- I would not breed from this Officer.
- This Officer is really not so much of a has-been, but more of a definitely won't-be.
- When she opens her mouth, it seems that this is only to change whichever foot was previously in there.
- He has carried out each and every one of his duties to his entire satisfaction.
- He would be out of his depth in a car park puddle.
- Technically sound, but socially impossible.
- This Officer reminds me very much of a gyroscope - always spinning around at a frantic pace, but not really going anywhere.
- This young lady has delusions of adequacy.
- When he joined my ship, this Officer was something of a granny; since then he has aged considerably.
- This Medical Officer has used my ship to carry his genitals from port to port, and my officers to carry him from bar to bar.
- Since my last report he has reached rock bottom, and has started to dig.
- She sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them.
- He has the wisdom of youth, and the energy of old age.
- This Officer should go far - and the sooner he starts, the better.
- In my opinion this pilot should not be authorized to fly below 250 feet.
- This man is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
- The only ship I would recommend this man for is citizenship.
- Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a trap. Contributed by: Bill Cleves
- His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of curiosity.
- I would not breed from this Officer.
- This Officer is really not so much of a has-been, but more of a definitely won't-be.
- When she opens her mouth, it seems that this is only to change whichever foot was previously in there.
- He has carried out each and every one of his duties to his entire satisfaction.
- He would be out of his depth in a car park puddle.
- Technically sound, but socially impossible.
- This Officer reminds me very much of a gyroscope - always spinning around at a frantic pace, but not really going anywhere.
- This young lady has delusions of adequacy.
- When he joined my ship, this Officer was something of a granny; since then he has aged considerably.
- This Medical Officer has used my ship to carry his genitals from port to port, and my officers to carry him from bar to bar.
- Since my last report he has reached rock bottom, and has started to dig.
- She sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them.
- He has the wisdom of youth, and the energy of old age.
- This Officer should go far - and the sooner he starts, the better.
- In my opinion this pilot should not be authorized to fly below 250 feet.
- This man is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
- The only ship I would recommend this man for is citizenship.
- Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a trap. Contributed by: Bill Cleves
12-12-2013, 07:00 PM
#380
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: HC-130H IP
Posts: 30
Got the conditional offer today from AA via email. After I replied with my acceptance they called me to setup the medical exam.
24 years Army/Coast Guard
5658TT / 2458 ME turboprop
2479 TPIC / 1177 ME PIC
IP/Examiner/CFI/CFII
Safety Officer
Zero internal contacts/refs
Hercnhawk, Where were you last stationed? I was in CLWTR last.
24 years Army/Coast Guard
5658TT / 2458 ME turboprop
2479 TPIC / 1177 ME PIC
IP/Examiner/CFI/CFII
Safety Officer
Zero internal contacts/refs
Hercnhawk, Where were you last stationed? I was in CLWTR last.
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