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Thanks Spudhauler. Has anyone seen a pilot get hired with American/USair, United or Delta with only 135 time yet? I'm thinking about applying to Spirit in order to get 121 time but only if that helps my chances significantly. I'd take a 60% pay cut if it would help me get hired at a Legacy a couple years earlier.
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I believe there is merit in having the degree. I decided that some time ago and went back to school. Now I have 90 credits towards my 120 needed for my BS. I'll have it this time next year. I wouldn't expect that anyone could forecast what the industry will do. However, I figure you guys probably have your ear to rail better than I do. I've been stuck in my 135 whole for a while. So, the degree is in the bag. Now I'm wondering if I should leave my rather secure, decent paying 135 job and go fly for someone like Spirit to build 121 time? Or just stay here and wait for the majors to reach way down to the 135 guys?
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About half of the new hire classes at Spirit are non-121 pilots. So a 135-only background isn't a disqualifier.
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I believe there is merit in having the degree. I decided that some time ago and went back to school. Now I have 90 credits towards my 120 needed for my BS. I'll have it this time next year. I wouldn't expect that anyone could forecast what the industry will do. However, I figure you guys probably have your ear to rail better than I do. I've been stuck in my 135 whole for a while. So, the degree is in the bag. Now I'm wondering if I should leave my rather secure, decent paying 135 job and go fly for someone like Spirit to build 121 time? Or just stay here and wait for the majors to reach way down to the 135 guys?
Timing is everything and for someone with your qualifications, 121 jet SIC is mostly all the same. You could be in class on a CRJ or E Jet within a month. Spirit or JetBlue or Southwest could take much longer to get hired and that defeats the point of using them as a stepping stone.
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The more I think about it I don't think I was being very accurate with my statement. I understand Spirit to be a very nice place to work. I would imagine that I'd be happier there then where I am now. If they would have me, I would build 121 time, and therefore would be more marketable. However, when ever I go to work for a company I'm always respectful of the investment they have made in me and I always consider that investment when planning future moves. With that said, I'd imagine most the people at Spirit are happy they are more marketable with their 121 time. As would I.
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You presume you'd get hired at Spirit quickly if your intention is to build 121 time for a legacy carrier. If you need 121 time to advance your career and you need it now, perhaps look for a jet regional with a base where you live?
Timing is everything and for someone with your qualifications, 121 jet SIC is mostly all the same. You could be in class on a CRJ or E Jet within a month. Spirit or JetBlue or Southwest could take much longer to get hired and that defeats the point of using them as a stepping stone.
Timing is everything and for someone with your qualifications, 121 jet SIC is mostly all the same. You could be in class on a CRJ or E Jet within a month. Spirit or JetBlue or Southwest could take much longer to get hired and that defeats the point of using them as a stepping stone.
With that said, I'm only thinking Spirit because I feel that is as high up the "ladder" as I can realistically reach. I understand they hire competent 135 pilots regularly. Some years ago they hired someone from my department (no 121). Also, by the third year I'd be making what I make now.
I didn't think of Spirit as being in the same league as South West and Jet Blue. I know they are all low cost carriers but I thought SW and JB where harder to get on with.
I'm probably clogging up the thread and getting in the way of all the real airline pilots celebrating their victory. Thanks for all the info. If anyone else has some more feel free to PM me.
Sincerely, Southernpilot
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