Spirit, the multi million dollar mistake!
12-17-2015 | 09:06 AM
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Do the math. Again, every plane load you fly in a major market is one less plane load for the Legacies. And YOU want to "upgrade" to a legacy flight deck?
"Oh, I have another foot. Let's shoot that one, too!"
12-17-2015 | 09:10 AM
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Nearly 6 pages of this thread and I haven't actually yet understood what this thread is about ...
Although, as usual it's turned into a Delta versus the world thread
Man hatters gonna hate , to each his own
Although, as usual it's turned into a Delta versus the world thread
Man hatters gonna hate , to each his own
12-17-2015 | 09:14 AM
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The hole in your logic is Spirit isn't flying in regional markets. You are competing head to head with the legacies while undercutting pilot wages/benefits.
Do the math. Again, every plane load you fly in a major market is one less plane load for the Legacies. And YOU want to "upgrade" to a legacy flight deck?
"Oh, I have another foot. Let's shoot that one, too!"
Do the math. Again, every plane load you fly in a major market is one less plane load for the Legacies. And YOU want to "upgrade" to a legacy flight deck?
"Oh, I have another foot. Let's shoot that one, too!"
12-17-2015 | 09:17 AM
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A 220 passenger, A321 is a stepping stone now? That's a new low. You do realize you are actually taking passengers from higher paying legacy jobs right, same jobs you keep your apps updated for?
Now if you weren't doing it at such a discount it wouldn't be an issue (the argument being it's actually a legit business model rather than than depending on cheap labor that doesn't realize their own value subsidizing growth and maintaining profit margins).
Now if you weren't doing it at such a discount it wouldn't be an issue (the argument being it's actually a legit business model rather than than depending on cheap labor that doesn't realize their own value subsidizing growth and maintaining profit margins).
Also, you're a fool if you think pilot labor costs have that much of an impact on our margins, or any airlines for that matter
12-17-2015 | 09:20 AM
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We are in negotiations, genius. Should we all just quit and hope that the legacy gods will shine their light down upon us?
12-17-2015 | 09:24 AM
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The key word in RLA contracts is "amendable". There is never a termination date. You could be working for your current rates for years to come.
And "retro" pay? Perhaps a "signing bonus." But full retro is a pipe dream.
12-17-2015 | 09:32 AM
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Again, typical RLA pilot negotiations drag out 2 to 5 years past their amendable date. Do you really think Spirit has any intention of giving up poor pilot pay rates anytime soon?
The key word in RLA contracts is "amendable". There is never a termination date. You could be working for your current rates for years to come.
And "retro" pay? Perhaps a "signing bonus." But full retro is a pipe dream.
The key word in RLA contracts is "amendable". There is never a termination date. You could be working for your current rates for years to come.
And "retro" pay? Perhaps a "signing bonus." But full retro is a pipe dream.
Listen, buddy. We're doing our best to get a leading contract. I'm sure we will get a much better deal soon enough. I'm confident that our guys won't ratify anything less. In the meantime, our job is to keep doing our job. Flying from major city to major city is what we do here. We aren't flying passengers on an rj that bought tickets on your website for **** wages. That is where your gripe needs to be.
12-17-2015 | 09:50 AM
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The hole in your logic is Spirit isn't flying in regional markets. You are competing head to head with the legacies while undercutting pilot wages/benefits.
Do the math. Again, every plane load you fly in a major market is one less plane load for the Legacies. And YOU want to "upgrade" to a legacy flight deck?
"Oh, I have another foot. Let's shoot that one, too!"
Do the math. Again, every plane load you fly in a major market is one less plane load for the Legacies. And YOU want to "upgrade" to a legacy flight deck?
"Oh, I have another foot. Let's shoot that one, too!"
Packrat I believe you fly for Alaska? If so you guys didnt exactly bang it out of the park with your recent contract. Talk about undercutting, Wow.
At least our contract is 5 years old what's your excuse?
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