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Old 12-17-2015, 01:15 PM
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There are some good things about NK but none of them come on the 1st or the 15th. I came here to roll the dice. Either our next contract gets us paid the levels we deserve or I'm out. The big 'tree' aren't calling me yet so I figured it'd be easier getting there from an A320 than a Citation if NK doesn't pan out.
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat View Post
A 220 passenger, A321 is a stepping stone now? That's a new low. You do realize you are actually taking passengers from higher paying legacy jobs right, same jobs you keep your apps updated for?
Now if you weren't doing it at such a discount it wouldn't be an issue (the argument being it's actually a legit business model rather than than depending on cheap labor that doesn't realize their own value subsidizing growth and maintaining profit margins).
Come on now, do you really think the frequent flier on Delta is saying "You know I can fly cheaper on Spirit" have you ever been on a spirit flight? Hop on a DTW-LAS flight on Spirit sometimes and take a look at the type of passenger we carry compared to Delta. Last check, Delta is not having a hard time filling their seats. So I don't believe this "Spirit is stealing passengers from the legacies" Our rates may be low now, but how was US Air, Delta, or United rates compared to Spirit 4-5 years ago? Now, if we voted in low rates compared to everyone else, then I would understand your frustration. I think you should be more concern about why there are brand new CRJ-900 or E-175, in Delta colors than worry about Spirit stealing your passengers.
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Pepper View Post
Packrat I believe you fly for Alaska? If so you guys didnt exactly bang it out of the park with your recent contract. Talk about undercutting, Wow.
At least our contract is 5 years old what's your excuse?
If I work for Alaska, I would be wondering why there are brand new E-175 in Alaska colors doing routes such as PDX-STL. All being flown by a regional, before coming on here and talking about the pay rates of another airline.
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex View Post
If I work for Alaska, I would be wondering why there are brand new E-175 in Alaska colors doing routes such as PDX-STL. All being flown by a regional, before coming on here and talking about the pay rates of another airline.
It is pretty hilarious that somebody from Alaska (who has ZERO scope) has the nerve to come on here and lecture Spirit pilots about our pay rates. I agree, our pay rates are abysmal and need to be corrected ASAP. That being said, I'm not sure that an Alaska pilot has the clout to be lecturing us on the damage our pay rates our doing to this industry. GMAFB. Why don't you worry a little less about our pay rates and a little more about the fact that you guys just agreed to a contract that allows unlimited outsourcing of your flying?
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat View Post
A 220 passenger, A321 is a stepping stone now? That's a new low. You do realize you are actually taking passengers from higher paying legacy jobs right, same jobs you keep your apps updated for?
Now if you weren't doing it at such a discount it wouldn't be an issue (the argument being it's actually a legit business model rather than than depending on cheap labor that doesn't realize their own value subsidizing growth and maintaining profit margins).
Hey Window Seat! I thought you forgot about us. For a second there I thought you might have found something better to do with your life. Good news, you didn't. For those of you who are unfamiliar, let me introduce you to Window Seat. The second that this idiot left his regional job for Delta about a year ago, he has made it his life mission to lecture Spirit pilots about our sh$tty pay rates. Thanks man, you're services on this (or any other Spirit thread) are no longer required. Our pay rates are in desperate need of improvement, and although you appear to think so as well, it doesn't take an idiot to see that.

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Old 12-17-2015, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
Yeah, I get it. Glad you're proud of the fact that you're stabbing your ALPA brothers in the back by flying for substandard pay/benefits.

Good for you. Looks like Spirit found a low self-esteem sucker.
You sir are a despicable piece of crap for insinuating we are stabbing other pilots in the back. I hope you are the first one shown the door when the furloughs begin, you trip walking out the door and lose your medical for saying stuff like this. Then, when you can't make a living your wife leaves you for a Piggly Wiggly bagger because not only is he better looking than you, he's got a bigger paycheck. Scumbag is too good a word for you.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:52 PM
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It's kinda fun reading all the insults going around.
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:07 PM
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Window Seat probably was a flow to Delta. He was probably turned down by Spirit or someone in his past and can't move forward.
There are some great people at the legacies, even Delta, but I love working at Spirit, and most crews are great. I don't care that I make less than Delta, I do not want to work at Delta. I don't have my app in at Delta and never will. I don't want to be #15000. Can't put my finger on why I hate Delta so much but they just erk me. Again not bashing the crews. Yes I would love higher pay and we deserve it with the profits we have. Don't want to make this Spirit vs Delta etc but Window Seat can suck it. The other guy too, you know if you have been reading this. Anyways have a lovely time reading. Where do you think you're going? Nobody's leaving. Nobody's walking out on this fun, old-fashioned family Christmas. No, no. We're all in this together. This is a full-blown, four-alarm holiday emergency here. We're gonna press on, and we're gonna have the hap, hap, happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby tap-danced with Danny ducking Kaye. And when Santa squeezes his fat white ass down that chimney tonight, he's gonna find the jolliest bunch of *******s this side of the nuthouse.
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Old 12-18-2015, 02:10 AM
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I agree Packrat made a fool of himself if he works for Alaska, but cmon guys. DELTAS current contract blows ours out of the water in every single regard. The 4-days off means little when you need to pick up a trip in between.

I "like" working here (Chief pilots have been great, great instructors and truly very helpful training/HR Folks) but will have no choice but to try and leave if we don't get a good contract soon. I'd be doing myself and family a huge disservice by staying as an AIRBUS CAPTAIN making $126.00/hr with a paltry retirement.

I go to work to get PAID, I have my fun on off days

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