Spirit low tier pilots
#191
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From: A320 CA
Huh? Forced to work on a day off? This is still a free country you know. Nobody can force you to do anything like that including a Judge, the President, Senator, Sheriff, Secretary General of the UN, Queen Elizabeth, Putin, Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un, etc...etc...
#192
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Do you really think a "real judge" is going to bother getting involved with a little jerk-off airline like Spirit? I don't think so. We really don't have that much of an economic impact. Why do you think we were allowed to strike in 2010? It's because we are insignificant and nobody really gives a **** about us.
We were 400 and now 1400 our economic impact has increased 350%. We are no longer as insignificant. We need to stand together.
#193
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From: 7th green
Do you really think a "real judge" is going to bother getting involved with a little jerk-off airline like Spirit? I don't think so. We really don't have that much of an economic impact. Why do you think we were allowed to strike in 2010? It's because we are insignificant and nobody really gives a **** about us.
#194
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Was Sun Country allowed to seek self help? Will Hawaiian be allowed too as well? I'm all for it; however, I don't think a release is anywhere on our near future.
#195
Let me remind you guys that it was Clinton who ordered AA back to work, and Obama appointed the head of the NMB who said (to Republic) no airline will ever be allowed to strike again on her watch.
And Democrats are supposed to be more labor friendly
And Democrats are supposed to be more labor friendly
#197
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From: A320
#198
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2012
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From: Done with that
You guys really need to stop playing lawyer on the net. The way it works. The company tracks your working habits. Everyone flies the contract and X amount of extra flying. That is the norm. If suddenly the X goes away, that can be brought to a Judge as proof of a job action. Don't doubt for a minute a F&H employee or similar firm is not copying every post here.
A Judge hears the suit brought before him. He/she could care less what the parties are like. Most of the time, it is the best attorney (attorneys make lots of money, lawyers not so much as in dime a dozen) that wins the case. The company can afford the best. Last point, if you guys don't know who is talking about "fly the contract and nothing else what can they do?" that person just might be a F&H employee or similar firm paid to get ammo for the company (see paragraph 1). We had employees do just that for our clients. So don't help your foe. Think about the idiots that shoot deer out of season and post on social media. Just be careful what you write AND respond to. A disclaimer- I never worked contracts for any airline by chance or choice but still a bastard who won cases for clients.
A Judge hears the suit brought before him. He/she could care less what the parties are like. Most of the time, it is the best attorney (attorneys make lots of money, lawyers not so much as in dime a dozen) that wins the case. The company can afford the best. Last point, if you guys don't know who is talking about "fly the contract and nothing else what can they do?" that person just might be a F&H employee or similar firm paid to get ammo for the company (see paragraph 1). We had employees do just that for our clients. So don't help your foe. Think about the idiots that shoot deer out of season and post on social media. Just be careful what you write AND respond to. A disclaimer- I never worked contracts for any airline by chance or choice but still a bastard who won cases for clients.
#199
Yeah, tell that to the Allegiant pilots who were told "no strike" by a judge. You really shouldn't stick your nose in where you have no idea what you're talking about. Spirit is the third largest carrier in Chicago and the fifth largest in Dallas. Do you really think a judge is going to force Spirit to stop that service to those airports? We're fighting a battle that's stacked against us. At least in the War of Northern Aggression, both sides had comparable guns, here management has m16s and we've got muskets.
#200
Forced to pick up open time. Other airlines have been forced to do it, there is precedent there to make us do the same.
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