Spirit low tier pilots
05-09-2016 | 05:51 PM
#221
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Keep it short. Keep it simple. Reach a wide audience.
This does all three.
05-10-2016 | 04:42 AM
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What he failed to mention to Investors is that F/Os at Legacies are compensated higher than us "Dumber than **** CAs who are just happy to Upgrade" as well as upgrade at Legacies being shorter than ours.
What's really scary is if they really are that out of touch how do they have a snowballs chance in hell in getting this place to at least be on time 75% of the time.
If they do know what's going on then they are flat out lying to The investment community to hide the fact we are all Very dissatisfied
05-10-2016 | 05:35 AM
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Yes & no. He said there are "three tiers" of airlines when he was asked about rising pilot compensation. He then said Spirit was on the lowest Tier and basically We all be a bunch of dumb rednecks who are "just happy" to Upgrade.
What he failed to mention to Investors is that F/Os at Legacies are compensated higher than us "Dumber than **** CAs who are just happy to Upgrade" as well as upgrade at Legacies being shorter than ours.
What's really scary is if they really are that out of touch how do they have a snowballs chance in hell in getting this place to at least be on time 75% of the time.
If they do know what's going on then they are flat out lying to The investment community to hide the fact we are all Very dissatisfied
What he failed to mention to Investors is that F/Os at Legacies are compensated higher than us "Dumber than **** CAs who are just happy to Upgrade" as well as upgrade at Legacies being shorter than ours.
What's really scary is if they really are that out of touch how do they have a snowballs chance in hell in getting this place to at least be on time 75% of the time.
If they do know what's going on then they are flat out lying to The investment community to hide the fact we are all Very dissatisfied
Or maybe it's denial? Complete denial how bad it is right now?
05-10-2016 | 05:40 AM
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If they didn't know before, which I highly doubt, they do now with that pamphlet. Dumped into a chief yesterday. He said a pilot called him directly to tell him about it. Yes, a pilot. Same guy probably just took a 4 hour JM so a flight didn't cancel. Or better yet, just for move up.
Or maybe it's denial? Complete denial how bad it is right now?
Or maybe it's denial? Complete denial how bad it is right now?
05-10-2016 | 06:17 AM
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You have to read the question too. It was about pilot compensation. He was assuring investors that there was no need for them to worry about us getting industry standard (at least mid-tier JetBlue) rates because we get to upgrade faster and that's what drives us as pilots.
05-10-2016 | 06:43 AM
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I also don't remember the last time I've flown with a captain who wasn't JA'd. Some JA'd as far out as the 48. They're certainly anti opentime, but happy to do their part to save the schedule for a little extra coin.
Same old alpa, different color tail.
05-10-2016 | 06:52 AM
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If you judged morale by apc, I'd say yes. But on the line?? Not so much and most are barely even ****ed.
I also don't remember the last time I've flown with a captain who wasn't JA'd. Some JA'd as far out as the 48. They're certainly anti opentime, but happy to do their part to save the schedule for a little extra coin.
Same old alpa, different color tail.
I also don't remember the last time I've flown with a captain who wasn't JA'd. Some JA'd as far out as the 48. They're certainly anti opentime, but happy to do their part to save the schedule for a little extra coin.
Same old alpa, different color tail.
05-10-2016 | 06:59 AM
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If you judged morale by apc, I'd say yes. But on the line?? Not so much and most are barely even ****ed.
I also don't remember the last time I've flown with a captain who wasn't JA'd. Some JA'd as far out as the 48. They're certainly anti opentime, but happy to do their part to save the schedule for a little extra coin.
Same old alpa, different color tail.
I also don't remember the last time I've flown with a captain who wasn't JA'd. Some JA'd as far out as the 48. They're certainly anti opentime, but happy to do their part to save the schedule for a little extra coin.
Same old alpa, different color tail.
Well, at least the JRM is costing the company more money. That's really the only silver lining I can see lol.
The Majority of F/Os I fly with are figuring out how to escape. One went to a Job Fair before OE, lol. It's not that guys are miserable per se but they aren't exactly "Happy" either. It's like when I was at XJT. Everyone is just doing the "BARE" minimum until a legacy calls or we get a contract. Just an observation
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