DAL & NWA Pilots To Take Contract to Management on May 29th
06-01-2008, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
I CANT BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TOLD PEOPLE THAT ON HERE AND FOR SOME REASON THEY SEEM TO EASILY FORGET IT. I HOPE YOU GET IT ACROSS BECAUSE I TO GET TIRED OF REPEATING IT!!!!
Carl, I have asked several times and no one will answer a simple question. I know about your scope clause. I don't know how it works or what the limits are. When is the narrow body floor set and what will that limit be on airframes. How many total airframes do you have now?
06-01-2008, 04:59 AM
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I get it Carl.. and I am really hoping it is one of the cherry picked items in the joint contract... That and the commuting policy. What other items would ya'll say are worth keeping? I'm not saying our contract is perfect, but there are a few things I would want to keep from our side, as I am sure there are things you want to keepon yours... what are they?
06-01-2008, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I get it Carl.. and I am really hoping it is one of the cherry picked items in the joint contract... That and the commuting policy. What other items would ya'll say are worth keeping? I'm not saying our contract is perfect, but there are a few things I would want to keep from our side, as I am sure there are things you want to keepon yours... what are they?
Great question....I'm actually thinking of starting a thread called something like "practical things" for all of us NWA guys. As I see it just about everything about my professional life will change, from where my wife drops me off for work to how I bid to how and when I do a check list. Lots of questions on my side for sure!
Some things just off the top of my head right now I can think of are:
Family Leave - I have elderly parents, and it's good to give my sister a break now and then.
NASAP - we all mess up every now and then..........10 years on the jet mean nothing when your tired.
Other work rule stuff I'd love to just sit and compare. I know our reserve guys want to keep our 75 hour rule.
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06-01-2008, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
I CANT BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TOLD PEOPLE THAT ON HERE AND FOR SOME REASON THEY SEEM TO EASILY FORGET IT. I HOPE YOU GET IT ACROSS BECAUSE I TO GET TIRED OF REPEATING IT!!!!
Carl
06-01-2008, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Carl, I have asked several times and no one will answer a simple question. I know about your scope clause. I don't know how it works or what the limits are. When is the narrow body floor set and what will that limit be on airframes. How many total airframes do you have now?
"It would be great if they kept them. Sadly if you run even basic fuel numbers reality shows up in a hurry. The question for the union is how do we capture the follow on flying as the nines go away at the mainline. I am sure management wants that flying at Compass or another connection carrier. We have to fight to secure the replacement flying at the mainline. Its one of the reasons that a joint contract is going to take longer then most think!"
When you make these kinds of comments, shouldn't you know something about what you assert?
Carl
06-01-2008, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I get it Carl.. and I am really hoping it is one of the cherry picked items in the joint contract... That and the commuting policy. What other items would ya'll say are worth keeping? I'm not saying our contract is perfect, but there are a few things I would want to keep from our side, as I am sure there are things you want to keepon yours... what are they?
You guys may already have stuff that is a lot better than this, but I would like to see these things retained or improved.
Carl
06-01-2008, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Carl, I have asked several times and no one will answer a simple question. I know about your scope clause. I don't know how it works or what the limits are. When is the narrow body floor set and what will that limit be on airframes. How many total airframes do you have now?
Since Northwest will almost certainly be below the floor in the future and since Compass is still in operation, then the limit is 90. This limit only applies to operations in which Northwest has a direct fee for departure relationship. There are no limits on 76 seaters flown through a code share.
06-01-2008, 12:26 PM
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Have,nt been folowing this to close but I,m curious if you folks at NWA and DAL have done the ole I,ll show you mine if you show me yours in regards to pilots contracts?That way they are an open book for both sides and no one gets advantage over the other one , or perhaps i missed this along the way .
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06-01-2008, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Being able to book a jumpseat 10 1/2 days in advance is a huge perk. Does Delta have this?
For those commuting TO work, you can book it 3 1/2 days in advance, not counting the day of travel. Example: your trip departs Friday, you can book the JS to work NET 1200 on Mon.
For those commuting FROM work, the window opens 2 1/2 days in advance. Same example, but you are finishing a trip on Fri. You can book the return jumpseat at NET 1200 on Tues.
For "personal" travel (i.e. not commuting to or from work) the window opens 1 1/2 days prior--you can figure it out.
The JS is booked strictly via a first-come first-served basis. Once you have it booked it can not be taken by a senior guy.
Still, sounds like NWA's JS might be better. What are the particulars?
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