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Skyler02 05-07-2018 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by calmwinds (Post 2578689)
Not a problem with the other bases being angry or jealous. I just don’t see it being worked out. This is no different than the ATL base. All hat, no cattle.

Any indication that details will be forthcoming anytime soon?

I know students looking to make a decision on a regional soon. They want details to make that decision.

deltajuliet 05-07-2018 07:10 AM

Even if it happens, the numbers will most likely be underwhelming. Don’t come to Mesa expecting a quick ticket to United. Judging by the Air Whiskey and ExpressJet forums, pilots won’t even be told what number in line they are - by design. More and more it feels like a recruiting and retention tool, not a tangible pathway to United.

calmwinds 05-07-2018 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 2588047)
Even if it happens, the numbers will most likely be underwhelming. Don’t come to Mesa expecting a quick ticket to United. Judging by the Air Whiskey and ExpressJet forums, pilots won’t even be told what number in line they are - by design. More and more it feels like a recruiting and retention tool, not a tangible pathway to United.

The Xjet pilots have a sense for where they are in line. Mainly because of their dwindling numbers and they know who is ahead of them. A buddy of mine there feels fairly confident he will transition this year.

journey2 05-07-2018 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Skyler02 (Post 2587997)
Any indication that details will be forthcoming anytime soon?

I know students looking to make a decision on a regional soon. They want details to make that decision.

They should not make a decision based on this recruitment tool. There are a lot of other things to consider besides this CPP, which most pilots will not be able to qualify for anyway.

Skyler02 05-07-2018 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by journey2 (Post 2588080)
They should not make a decision based on this recruitment tool. There are a lot of other things to consider besides this CPP, which most pilots will not be able to qualify for anyway.

Agreed. This is just one part of the big picture. And they are well aware of that. Mesa is falling behind in a lot of other areas.

Wondering what you think will disqualify most pilots from the CPP?

Aviatormar 05-13-2018 02:48 PM

This is sort of an odd question- currently Mesa has a Non-Line instructor position open- will the CPP allow those guys to enroll in the CPP? Also if your a line pilot and you're in the sim, do those hours count towards the requirements?

One other question- do you guys hire FO's as sim instructors? Or is it only captains?

calmwinds 05-13-2018 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Aviatormar (Post 2593216)
This is sort of an odd question- currently Mesa has a Non-Line instructor position open- will the CPP allow those guys to enroll in the CPP? Also if your a line pilot and you're in the sim, do those hours count towards the requirements?

One other question- do you guys hire FO's as sim instructors? Or is it only captains?

Why be a SIM instructor if you are qualified to be a line pilot? And, yes, FO’s can be sim instructors.

Flight hours don’t include SIM time. So, assuming the requirement is 3,000 flight hours - SIM hours would not count.

Aviatormar 05-13-2018 03:56 PM

Well the way I kinda figured is I really enjoy teaching but the idea of the CPP really appeals to me. I currently live about 20 minutes from the airport so if I could work in the sim and work towards the CPP at the same time that would be the best of both worlds? I don’t know enough about either situation; just trying to gather information.

calmwinds 05-13-2018 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Aviatormar (Post 2593261)
Well the way I kinda figured is I really enjoy teaching but the idea of the CPP really appeals to me. I currently live about 20 minutes from the airport so if I could work in the sim and work towards the CPP at the same time that would be the best of both worlds? I don’t know enough about either situation; just trying to gather information.

Do you live 20 minutes from which airport? To be honest, I would get 1,000 right seat time before teaching the SIM.

Aviatormar 05-13-2018 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by calmwinds (Post 2593293)
Do you live 20 minutes from which airport?

Phx- I live over in Scottsdale.


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