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Old 05-23-2018 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Correct. My error. It does use a present tense verb in describing the one must be exclusively a United Express Pilot —- which may imply a pilot must be based in IAD or IAH now.

I agree it still doesn't answer a lot correctly. Why say now open to ALL pilots when you have to actively be in IAD/IAH right now. It really comes down to those that use to be in ORD/IAD/DEN/BNA back in the day. Does all that time count or not.
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Old 05-23-2018 | 08:42 AM
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The CPP is nothing but a scam. It’s going to do nothing but **** off the current pilots, and attract new pilots that don’t know any better. That program is not designed for regionals operating for multiple carriers.
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Old 05-23-2018 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
XJT is reporting 23 just took advantage of the program, probably entering next month’s new hire class for United.
This is was I was asking about.

You posted “this month”, there wasn’t a new hire class this month. But for June, NEXT MONTH, yes.

And yes, I’m already VERY FAMILIAR with the XJT/CPP language.

And take that “United plans to hire 500 a year” with a grain of salt. There’s seems to be an increase in this year’s plan if it stays 2 classs per year till end of year, THANK GOD. It’ll beat the initial projection of filling 600 vacancies.

But just for perspective, 2017 was 800, then 600, then 450. Not even 300 new hires added to the list when all was said and done.
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Old 05-23-2018 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviatormar
What was said that excluded Phx pilots? Can someone post the memo? Also what if you came into Mesa with 4000 hours already (2300 tpic)? 4 year degree?
Sorry for the crappy post- sitting middle seat on a 73.... large people stink
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Old 05-23-2018 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sennant
I agree it still doesn't answer a lot correctly. Why say now open to ALL pilots when you have to actively be in IAD/IAH right now. It really comes down to those that use to be in ORD/IAD/DEN/BNA back in the day. Does all that time count or not.
Mesa tends to hide the details that will upset people. Do we know if all Mesa pilots even received the email? If someone received the email from IAD, DFW, SDF, or PHX pipe in if they received the email.
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Old 05-23-2018 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Mesa tends to hide the details that will upset people. Do we know if all Mesa pilots even received the email? If someone received the email from IAD, DFW, SDF, or PHX pipe in if they received the email.


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Old 05-23-2018 | 07:37 PM
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It's been very hit and miss, and the people who did get it got it at different times.

A+ communication.
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Old 05-24-2018 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by backtoregionals
The CPP is nothing but a scam. It’s going to do nothing but **** off the current pilots, and attract new pilots that don’t know any better. That program is not designed for regionals operating for multiple carriers.
Tell the 23 XJT pilots that start class at United in June that CPP is a scam.....many at XJT in IAH are only there waiting for their interview to come up.

I do agree that it is problematic for regionals that operate for multiple carriers, because big regionals, like Republic and SkyWest, don’t necessarily segregate their bases by carrier. Mesa does.

Unfortunately for Mesa pilots outside of IAH, Mesa has been less than forthcoming with answers. They want the answers to not upset any of the current pilots.

Hopefully, pilots at bases other than IAH are firing their questions into the email address provided.
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Old 05-24-2018 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Tell the 23 XJT pilots that start class at United in June that CPP is a scam.....many at XJT in IAH are only there waiting for their interview to come up.
It’s worked out good for the pilots that have gone.

Many of those pilots going NOW could have taken advantage of the of the defacto system and been hired at CAL in 2005-2008 and be NB CA’s, senior NB’s FO’s, senior (enough) WB FO’s NOW.

Many of them are having/had the come to jesus moment of “oh crap, looks like staying at a regional wasn’t such a good idea afterall”.

And for those waiting on their interview;

The ones that pass HPI and get the face to face have about a 20% chance of getting accepted.

The second rounders have about a 50% chance.

That stay held close for Commutair as well.

Just like off the street, they have shot down some FANTASTIC pilots and accepted some of the most disliked/avoided CA’s.

And there’s been more than a few in the program that simply left becuse they were tired of waiting on their number. CA’s as well as FO’s.

A guy said it best, “the CPP is NOTHING MORE than a chance, at a chance, at a chance”.
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Old 05-24-2018 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
It’s worked out good for the pilots that have gone.

Many of those pilots going NOW could have taken advantage of the of the defacto system and been hired at CAL in 2005-2008 and be NB CA’s, senior NB’s FO’s, senior (enough) WB FO’s NOW.

Many of them are having/had the come to jesus moment of “oh crap, looks like staying at a regional wasn’t such a good idea afterall”.

And for those waiting on their interview;

The ones that pass HPI and get the face to face have about a 20% chance of getting accepted.

The second rounders have about a 50% chance.

That stay held close for Commutair as well.

Just like off the street, they have shot down some FANTASTIC pilots and accepted some of the most disliked/avoided CA’s.

And there’s been more than a few in the program that simply left becuse they were tired of waiting on their number. CA’s as well as FO’s.

A guy said it best, “the CPP is NOTHING MORE than a chance, at a chance, at a chance”.
Isn’t that how all regional pilots move to the majors? They take advantage of chances, of a chance, of a chance until it happens.
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