Originally Posted by calmwinds

Isn’t that how all regional pilots move to the majors?

Originally Posted by John Carr

Yes, but....



With the CPP is less, much less.....

Originally Posted by John Carr

It’s worked out good for the pilots that have gone.

Many of those pilots going NOW could have taken advantage of the of the defacto system and been hired at CAL in 2005-2008 and be NB CA’s, senior NB’s FO’s, senior (enough) WB FO’s NOW.

Many of them are having/had the come to jesus moment of “oh crap, looks like staying at a regional wasn’t such a good idea afterall”.

And for those waiting on their interview;

The ones that pass HPI and get the face to face have about a 20% chance of getting accepted.

The second rounders have about a 50% chance.

That stay held close for Commutair as well.

Just like off the street, they have shot down some FANTASTIC pilots and accepted some of the most disliked/avoided CA’s.

And there’s been more than a few in the program that simply left becuse they were tired of waiting on their number. CA’s as well as FO’s.

A guy said it best, “the CPP is NOTHING MORE than a chance, at a chance, at a chance”.

Originally Posted by mjpilot

Too much negativety in life will get you cancer, so there goes your chance ...

Originally Posted by calmwinds

Then, since we can apply the normal way as well, it is just one more chance. Making it much more.

Originally Posted by Brody

Half the pilots at Mesa just had a knife stuck in their backs, after years of service, furloughs, base-closings, etc, etc.

And here you are, bragging about your 'chance' . . .

Stockholm Syndrome?

Originally Posted by Brody

Half the pilots at Mesa just had a knife stuck in their backs, after years of service, furloughs, base-closings, etc, etc.

And here you are, bragging about your 'chance' . . .

Stockholm Syndrome?

Originally Posted by calmwinds

Lifers, who sit here complaining about their lot, and do nothing about it, are the ones with Stockholm Syndrome.

Some advice: Lose some weight. Get a degree. And, get out of here. Go to an AAL wholly owned and get a flow. Go to SkyWest, who has a better reputation among recruiters and will give you credit for years of service in your pay rate.

For the rest of us, Mesa represents a way to build time quickly, upgrade quickly, and move on quickly. That isn’t Stockholm Syndrome, that is using Mesa for what it is.

Originally Posted by giggity37

Skywest has been building a horrible reputation at United-Too many right seat Capt’s. Just a couple years ago nobody ever wanted to go to piedmont. It was the place for people who couldn’t get hired at other regionals. Now those same non hireable pilots are flowing to AA. You can’t predict what will happen with the regionals in the next 10 years. Moving laterally to another regional is just dumb. Especially one that has a lot of 50 seaters. The CPP carrot gives me something to do while I wait for a major to call. Only way I will stay at Mesa is if we get a pay raise and a real flow.

Originally Posted by calmwinds

Lifers, who sit here complaining about their lot, and do nothing about it, are the ones with Stockholm Syndrome.

Some advice: Lose some weight. Get a degree. And, get out of here. Go to an AAL wholly owned and get a flow. Go to SkyWest, who has a better reputation among recruiters and will give you credit for years of service in your pay rate.

For the rest of us, Mesa represents a way to build time quickly, upgrade quickly, and move on quickly. That isn’t Stockholm Syndrome, that is using Mesa for what it is.