United CPP comes to Mesa
05-22-2018 | 03:58 PM
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It causes more questions than it necessarily answers.
I cannot tell if one must be a Ejet Pilot, or a pilot based either in IAD or IAH. Clearly, pilots in American Eagle bases are left out.
The other thing is what happens if an United Express pilot isn’t qualified for CPP today, but will be in the future. It doesn’t say they can enroll in the program and become qualified in the future.
Looks to me like this program will upset more pilots than it will make happy. Between upset pilots who move on and the 50 pilots hired per year by United under this program, Mesa will need to increase their new hire throughput.
I cannot tell if one must be a Ejet Pilot, or a pilot based either in IAD or IAH. Clearly, pilots in American Eagle bases are left out.
The other thing is what happens if an United Express pilot isn’t qualified for CPP today, but will be in the future. It doesn’t say they can enroll in the program and become qualified in the future.
Looks to me like this program will upset more pilots than it will make happy. Between upset pilots who move on and the 50 pilots hired per year by United under this program, Mesa will need to increase their new hire throughput.
05-22-2018 | 06:07 PM
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The United CPP is pulling in 23 XJT pilots this month. They are contracted at 25% of United new hires. If we are contacted at 10% of United new hires as rumored, Mesa should be losing about 9 pilots to this program per month. I am guessing only IAD or IAH pilots qualify who have the requisite 3,000 hours 121 time or 2,000 hours 121 PIC time (I guess for RATP pilots) and a 4 year degree.
05-22-2018 | 06:42 PM
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It causes more questions than it necessarily answers.
I cannot tell if one must be a Ejet Pilot, or a pilot based either in IAD or IAH. Clearly, pilots in American Eagle bases are left out.
The other thing is what happens if an United Express pilot isn’t qualified for CPP today, but will be in the future. It doesn’t say they can enroll in the program and become qualified in the future.
Looks to me like this program will upset more pilots than it will make happy. Between upset pilots who move on and the 50 pilots hired per year by United under this program, Mesa will need to increase their new hire throughput.
I cannot tell if one must be a Ejet Pilot, or a pilot based either in IAD or IAH. Clearly, pilots in American Eagle bases are left out.
The other thing is what happens if an United Express pilot isn’t qualified for CPP today, but will be in the future. It doesn’t say they can enroll in the program and become qualified in the future.
Looks to me like this program will upset more pilots than it will make happy. Between upset pilots who move on and the 50 pilots hired per year by United under this program, Mesa will need to increase their new hire throughput.
What was said that excluded Phx pilots? Can someone post the memo? Also what if you came into Mesa with 4000 hours already (2300 tpic)? 4 year degree?
Sorry for the crappy post- sitting middle seat on a 73.... large people stink
05-22-2018 | 06:51 PM
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05-23-2018 | 03:59 AM
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Except for turning over all your detailed training and attendance records at Mesa to United, the rest of the requirements for qualifying are set by United and they will review your application.
05-23-2018 | 04:04 AM
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The math seems pretty simple as to how many Mesa pilots will go to United per year. 50 per year.
XJT is reporting 23 just took advantage of the program, probably entering next month’s new hire class for United.
05-23-2018 | 05:44 AM
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One must be “exclusively a United Express Pilot for Mesa” for the last 12 months. One must have “2,000 PIC or 3,000 total time flying for Mesa Airlines”.
Except for turning over all your detailed training and attendance records at Mesa to United, the rest of the requirements for qualifying are set by United and they will review your application.
Except for turning over all your detailed training and attendance records at Mesa to United, the rest of the requirements for qualifying are set by United and they will review your application.
To be clear it says:
"Pilots must also maintain at least 12 months of exclusively flying as United Express at Mesa Airlines"
It doesn't say the LAST 12 months. Just says have 12 months.
05-23-2018 | 05:55 AM
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Correct. My error. It does use a present tense verb in describing the one must be exclusively a United Express Pilot —- which may imply a pilot must be based in IAD or IAH now.
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