I was talking to an XJT pilot who told me he was finally up for an interview after 9 years at XJT. I would expect it has to do with UAL’s hiring cycle.

 

You may want to take a look at the United Pilot Agreement before making the above assumption. First year pay on any fleet is just under $90/hour and you get the 16% B/C, 401K, etc. that the UPA provides. No regional I know of offers that. Second year you're over $100/hour and it goes up from there. One thing you can't put a dollar amount on is job security which is something no regional has right now compared to a major.

 

Man! I must have a sixth sense then! I just got awarded IAD from being a couple years in DFW. Nice!! now that means what.. upgrade on the EJET!

 

Well, as long as you did not burn an INDOC test or SYSTEMS or something you should be good, just re-sign and don't burn bridges and have a good explanation at airline XYZ interview why you left! lots of experience with PRIA and multiple airlines :P

 

Here's the scoop and I'm betting the farm that I'm 90% correct on this!

1.) Not EVERY PILOT WILL QUALIFY AT MESA FOR UNITED CPP
- what that means? You must do the personality test at United (Hogan)
- you must interview with a united HR/recruiter (may not pass)
that is all to be accepted into the program

2.) American Eagle CRJ 900 pilots WILL qualify
- I say this because CRJ 900 pilots will be qualified to fly the 700 for United. I believe the terminology will read "pilots must be qualified to fly the aircraft as United Express..." CRJ pilots across the board will qualify

3.) Only a certain percentage of people will go
- Rumor mill says 10% of mesa pilots, may be higher up to 25% currently being offered to XJT. But, I don't think it will be that significant

4.) this is NOT A FLOW or GUARANTEE that a pilot will be at UNITED
- This is to stop attrition and to keep people at mesa period!
- History has a way of repeating itself, compass flow to NWA/DELTA? anyone remember those days? yep! now look at compass...
- No one should let a CPP dictate any career moves! Spirit calls you go! Jet Blue calls, ditch mesa... get the picture!

anyway that's my synopsis of this whole program. It is more carrot dangling to keep people at mesa and to use as a recruiting tool!

Like I say, I have a sixth sense for these things!!

 

I hope you are right, but I expect United to require the CRJ pilot to be based at IAD.

All one has to do is ask XJT about the program to see how one works. The closer someone comes to qualifying for the interview, the more likely they are to stay if they want to fly for United.

The 4 year degree requirement already knocks out a lot of Mesa pilots.

 

How many do you think have it?

 

And do you think that united will pay the same for a 76 seat jet as a 737 or 320? (They won’t) No doubt flying a RJ at United will be way better than flying at a regional, the sad thing is that it will go to new hires for years, and all the new hires will have already spent years at a regional. It will be the initial change over that sucks.

 

The United CBA contains a 76 seat pay rate (technically a CRJ900 payrate specifically). In 2018 FO rates are 87.79 to 119.20 and CA rates from 160.23 to 174.55.

 

All hypotheticals. But IF the rate was good enough, it could be similar to DAL and the 717.

The junior plane, just because. Or a good/rising seniority due to juniorioty of everyone else.

And along the lines of the A319/320 and 73/75, it'd be the separate/blended concept with a 76 seat rate added in.

But at the end of the day, STILL BETTER than a regional on EVERY LEVEL.