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Originally Posted by giggity37
(Post 2557219)
That’s why southwest is a better company. You can’t determine good candidates with a stupid hogan test or by some hr guy/gal who isn’t a pilot. Pilot referals used to actually mean something. So many great guys/gals have been passed up and southwest has immediately picked them up. When almost half the flying is outsourced.... offering a “interview” after so many years at the sweat shop is laughable and one of the worst carrots in this industry.
Glad you made it to Southwest. Great outfit. |
Originally Posted by giggity37
(Post 2557219)
That’s why southwest is a better company. You can’t determine good candidates with a stupid hogan test or by some hr guy/gal who isn’t a pilot. Pilot referals used to actually mean something. So many great guys/gals have been passed up and southwest has immediately picked them up. When almost half the flying is outsourced.... offering a “interview” after so many years at the sweat shop is laughable and one of the worst carrots in this industry.
Have you ever wonder why you got turned down 2 times John. You should ask around, you will be surprised |
Originally Posted by Sniper66
(Post 2557804)
Have you ever wonder why you got turned down 2 times John.
You should ask around, you will be surprised |
Originally Posted by T28driver
(Post 2556089)
We still have zero hard numbers on what the CPP will be at Air Wisconsin, so I would treat the 10% number provided by the recruiter with extreme skepticism.
For those of us flying for United Express, the CPP is either going to end up as a winning lottery ticket or it will be a slow death march of understaffed brutal schedules. There really is no in between. It is in United’s best interests to make the CPP a massive success. Otherwise they are going to run out of people to fly RJ’s and provide feed. Or any information on when the details will be available? I agree 100% with what you said above “For those of us flying for United Express, the CPP is either going to end up as a winning lottery ticket or it will be a slow death march of understaffed brutal schedules. There really is no in between. It is in United’s best interests to make the CPP a massive success. Otherwise they are going to run out of people to fly RJ’s and provide feed.” |
Originally Posted by Skyler02
(Post 2562053)
Are there any new details on the Mesa CPP?
Or any information on when the details will be available? I agree 100% with what you said above “For those of us flying for United Express, the CPP is either going to end up as a winning lottery ticket or it will be a slow death march of understaffed brutal schedules. There really is no in between. It is in United’s best interests to make the CPP a massive success. Otherwise they are going to run out of people to fly RJ’s and provide feed.” |
Straight from the website:
Mesa Air Group Have a high school diploma or GED equivalent, you will not be eligible for hire at United until you have obtained a Bachelor’s degree from an accredited institution or obtained other applicable credentials acceptable to United Airlines Have a training performance record, employment record and history that is acceptable to United Airlines Complete at least twelve months of active service as a pilot with Mesa Airlines Complete a job fit assessment with a score that is acceptable to United Sign a release permitting United Airlines access to relevant work records on file with Mesa Airlines Successfully complete an interview with a representative of United Airlines United Airlines must be hiring pilots You must have flown either 2,000 hours as Pilot-in-Command or 3,000 hours total in service to Mesa Airlines Complete at least one initial qualification evaluation and one continuing qualification evaluation at Mesa Airlines Remain in continued compliance with the eligibility requirements listed above. Complete any professional development activities required by Mesa Airlines and United Airlines. Meet United Airlines new hire pilot minimum qualifications Satisfactorily complete other customary United pre-employment screening requirements like a background investigation and drug screening test You will not need to complete another interview but must receive a “Recommend” for hire by the United CPP Administrator and United’s Pilot Selection Board, after completing a final performance review of the standards set forth in this CPP program Even if we optimistically get 10% of future United new hire class spots, that's only around 50/year. There will be those too old to leave, too senior to want to leave, and those without degrees, but even then, how long will it take a new hire? |
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 2562297)
Straight from the website:
Mesa Air Group It still leaves some open to interpretation, but that's it so far. It'd be great if we could get to the nitty gritty of it. Even if we optimistically get 10% of future United new hire class spots, that's only around 50/year. There will be those too old to leave, too senior to want to leave, and those without degrees, but even then, how long will it take a new hire? |
Right. Sounds like they're done for summer and won't even have a real hiring projection for 2018 until May.
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
(Post 2562297)
Straight from the website:
Mesa Air Group It still leaves some open to interpretation, but that's it so far. It'd be great if we could get to the nitty gritty of it. Even if we optimistically get 10% of future United new hire class spots, that's only around 50/year. There will be those too old to leave, too senior to want to leave, and those without degrees, but even then, how long will it take a new hire? And, of course, United’s hiring projection is a major factor. |
Originally Posted by Skyler02
(Post 2562373)
Yes. This is the detail we need. Is it going to be 10%? That’s important to know.
And, of course, United’s hiring projection is a major factor. I still think only 25% of our UAX pilots that qualify after requirements of a bachelor’s degree and an exempliary training/employment record is met. |
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