Stay away if you value your record. They train to fail. They have a horrible training record.

 

if you value your record, you won't go to Mesa. They have a horrible training program that trains to fail.

 

Why didn’t you fail if you believe they train to fail?

 

[QUOTE=calmwinds;2575074]Why didn’t you fail if you believe they train to fail.

I consider myself lucky that I received exellent training else where. I know of good pilots, that were let go just because they had to repeat sim session twice. I know others that went to the line, just squeezing by, and were sent back to training, never to be seen again.

It's your record, you do as you please, but Mesa won't help you to be successful. Everyone is different so good luck to you.

 

[QUOTE=flyguy727;2575173]The guys that failed in my class failed because they didn’t put in the effort or were overwhelmed by the training.

Which jet did your train on?

 

I completely agree. Something needs to be done to improve the training not just on the Ejet side, but the CRJ side too. No one seems to even be getting thru sims or the checkride anymore without having to do it twice. The fail rate right now is quite high at Mesa. Improve the training, and it will be lowered.

 

All the regionals seem to be taking longer to get people through training than they once did. Perhaps the applicant pool for new hires has become ... shallower.

 

A pilot is a lifer if they fail the checkride the first time but eventually pass. Where are all those guys saying JO doesn’t want pilots to be lifers.....

 

This guy gets it.

 

That is absolute BS. NO airline seeks to incur the costs of training pilots for the purpose of eventually failing them. And right now, pretty much every airline is desperate to get more fannies in seats. What is more the case is that the industry has reached the point where they’re having to skim through the dregs just to come up with one half-decent pilot. Sad, but true. If you don’t believe me then start asking the sim instructors at all the other regionals. They’re all suffering from trying to teach people who have no business in the cockpit of a jet. SkyWest and Endeavor have a little higher ground to stand on, but the rest are all in pretty much the same boat as Mesa. I’m not going to defend Mesa management on any issue. But, your claim that Mesa is “training people to fail” indicates that either the instructors lack the integrity to see that the process is fair or, that they would be willing to follow management direction to fail trainees for any other reason than because they suck at flying. Any reasonable person, and especially one who knows well over half of the Mesa instructors, immediately realizes how ridiculous your post is on so many levels. Before you write this kind of stuff, please just ask yourself what you’d rather do ... fail a person who is a marginal performer, or be the guy to reluctantly sign somebody off who later flies passengers into the ground? If I were walking in their shoes I know what l’d do.