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Old 01-04-2019, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by backtoregionals View Post
Numerous RNAV off the ground departures don’t show connecting lines from the runway to the departure RNAV track..it says HDG ***

DME arcs in Mexico are missing the names of the fixes on the arc

The single engine path out of DCA for RWY 1 says make climbing right turn on the plan view

The SIDs and STARs are ridiculously cluttered

The order of the frequencies on the approach plates make ZERO sense

Is that enough to convince you tools why these charts are total junk?
Please report the specific instances to Ian.

The one I see that IS critical is the plan view right turn. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:33 PM
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Wish it was a formal crew memo. It's not. It needs to be corrected.
I was not aware that an email is official permission to override the GOM. I really don’t think the parallel has officially started yet. I heard that the federal government shutdown and a debate about power in the flight deck has prevented the approval to proceed.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:53 PM
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Well I'm encouraged that the feedback is being received and acted on if you give it to the head of the project. For example the minimums in IAH are fixed in the new update.

Good to know. Still a lot of things to fix. The taxi diagrams are still a mess. It looks like they put zero effort into accurate placement of hand-off spots.
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:49 AM
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If this battery life difference is correct. Sounds like more fuel to keep this Charts+ off the property. We signed a contract with Jepp on the ipad. So if it alters the operation and potential life expectancy of the ipads we currently using. The use of charts+ on our ipads, could trigger a potential grievance. I know this is splitting hairs here, but it actually could come to that. it would be nice if our piece of crap union would say something regarding this latest current event.

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Re: ipad battery life.

I did some experimentation. Ipad brightness all the say up. No sleep mode. Same chart displayed.

While open in daytime mode:

New Charts after 15 minutes: 5% battery loss
Jepps after 15 minutes: 3% battery loss

Night Mode

New charts after 30 minutes: 8 Pct
Jepps after 30 minutes: 9 Pct


While Screen is OFF there is no difference in battery drain or any battery drain at all. Turn off your screen when not actively using the ipad. Press the little button at the top of the ipad. I've seen guys just leave them on all the time!

One thing the charts plus by default does is that it disables sleep mode on the device. You can change this setting in the preferences.
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Old 01-06-2019, 12:02 PM
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If this battery life difference is correct. Sounds like more fuel to keep this Charts+ off the property. We signed a contract with Jepp on the ipad. So if it alters the operation and potential life expectancy of the ipads we currently using. The use of charts+ on our ipads, could trigger a potential grievance. I know this is splitting hairs here, but it actually could come to that. it would be nice if our piece of crap union would say something regarding this latest current event.
Our union is keeping their head down these days. I am less worried about Charts+ than the lack of news about the United contract extensions/renewals.
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Old 01-06-2019, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by YVslave View Post
If this battery life difference is correct. Sounds like more fuel to keep this Charts+ off the property. We signed a contract with Jepp on the ipad. So if it alters the operation and potential life expectancy of the ipads we currently using. The use of charts+ on our ipads, could trigger a potential grievance. I know this is splitting hairs here, but it actually could come to that. it would be nice if our piece of crap union would say something regarding this latest current event.
What exactly do you want them to say? Other us airlines use the software which means the faa has signed off on it. There’s no contractual ground to disavow it, and in fact just the opposite that management rights let the company decide how to run things outside the scope of the contract (I.e. this).
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Old 01-06-2019, 03:01 PM
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What exactly do you want them to say? Other us airlines use the software which means the faa has signed off on it. There’s no contractual ground to disavow it, and in fact just the opposite that management rights let the company decide how to run things outside the scope of the contract (I.e. this).
What other US airline uses it? I heard that the FAA is requiring USB power on the flight deck for its use.
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Old 01-06-2019, 03:41 PM
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We all know how good the Europeans are at making maps. After all Columbus thought he was in India.
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Old 01-06-2019, 05:01 PM
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What other US airline uses it?
Air Wisconsin is the only one I know of.
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Old 01-06-2019, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sennant View Post
What exactly do you want them to say? Other us airlines use the software which means the faa has signed off on it. There’s no contractual ground to disavow it, and in fact just the opposite that management rights let the company decide how to run things outside the scope of the contract (I.e. this).
Good point. If United decides not to extend the EJETs, the charts won’t matter much in the long term.
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