Charts+ transition
12-11-2018, 07:35 PM
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I have a feeling that most of the folks defending charts+ haven't looked at them very much yet, if at all. They're going to be in for a pretty big shock when they pull up an airport diagram that doesn't have the taxiways labeled...or a STAR chart that's missing half of the procedure...or an ILS approach plate with no CAT I mins listed...or a Mexican DME arc approach with none of the IAFs labeled...and on and on.
12-12-2018, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by flydrive
I have a feeling that most of the folks defending charts+ haven't looked at them very much yet, if at all. They're going to be in for a pretty big shock when they pull up an airport diagram that doesn't have the taxiways labeled...or a STAR chart that's missing half of the procedure...or an ILS approach plate with no CAT I mins listed...or a Mexican DME arc approach with none of the IAFs labeled...and on and on.
12-12-2018, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Are these the same guys that do the FMS in the Ejet? No wonder the outter fixes on the DFW approaches are missing. I was flying a Mesa flight into DFW when we were given direct to one of these missing fixes and the response from the FO was “unable, we need vectors to final”. The FO didn’t realize he could just load in the fix in manually, but at least he were smart enough not to completely screw things up. Approach gave us a vector and all was well.
12-12-2018, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Yes. Same vendor. How do you input a fix without the fix being on a chart?
These charts come across as a European vendor who publishes the US charts for European carriers.
12-13-2018, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
Manually entering fixes on the approach is prohibited at some carriers.
At least we will have Jepp charts. Oh, wait. Lol.
01-04-2019, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by flydrive
I have a feeling that most of the folks defending charts+ haven't looked at them very much yet, if at all. They're going to be in for a pretty big shock when they pull up an airport diagram that doesn't have the taxiways labeled...or a STAR chart that's missing half of the procedure...or an ILS approach plate with no CAT I mins listed...or a Mexican DME arc approach with none of the IAFs labeled...and on and on.
I hear, plotting of sids and stars is coming.
01-04-2019, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by flydrive
I have a feeling that most of the folks defending charts+ haven't looked at them very much yet, if at all. They're going to be in for a pretty big shock when they pull up an airport diagram that doesn't have the taxiways labeled...or a STAR chart that's missing half of the procedure...or an ILS approach plate with no CAT I mins listed...or a Mexican DME arc approach with none of the IAFs labeled...and on and on.
01-04-2019, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
I flew one referencing the new charts - CRJ - not any issue at all. The fixes while not named ARE on the charts. They ARE NOT FMS DATABASE NAMES or even real intersection names on the Jepps. They are just radial designations and are easy to see on the new charts and were easy to see in the FMS. Ejet milage may vary.
Unless I missed something, we are not authorized to open this application in the iPad while flying yet. We are still under a GOM that limits the specific applications we can have open on the flight deck.
01-04-2019, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
I am interested to see if we get to keep ownship with Charts+. That would be a plus.
Unless I missed something, we are not authorized to open this application in the iPad while flying yet. We are still under a GOM that limits the specific applications we can have open on the flight deck.
Unless I missed something, we are not authorized to open this application in the iPad while flying yet. We are still under a GOM that limits the specific applications we can have open on the flight deck.
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