Mesa issues warn notice to pilots
#611
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yah, get your foot inside the door at the company and maybe get a job flying at some point. Worth the try. I hear FedEx is a little easier than UPS. Crazier things have happened. If we were furloughed back when we should have been, I could have got last 2 quarters of pay averaged for unemployment plus 600 a week. Now it’s going to be min guarantee averaged, which in Texas per week is a little over $180 a week. I can’t survive on that, so while our “jobs” were saved, it really was a bust. I could have been getting $4000 a month off of unemployment, way more than sticking around. If the reduced minimum goes through and then they furlough it will be even worse. Talking around $100 per week for unemployment. Guys, something to think about. If you keep lowering the pay, the unemployment insurance goes so low, you can’t afford to even use it. Your intention was to help save jobs, but you put the poor FO’s in a weird and financially dangerous position.
#612
Nobody is buying tickets on Mesa or any other regional. So, the money goes into the mainline. They subcontract out the small jet flying to you for a fixed fee. They bid one regional against another to get the lowest CPA/FFD they can. The more that you get paid, the less there is to pay the mainline employees. There is only ONE pot of money.
I'll repeat; the less they pay regional employees, the more they can pay mainline employees. Do the math.
I'll repeat; the less they pay regional employees, the more they can pay mainline employees. Do the math.
#613
Fedex uses outsourced vendors for most ground delivery services. I'd recommend a UPS delivery driver service. They do hire directly and you are a UPS employee. You can use that to apply for the pilot position as an internal applicant, instead of being in the pile with a few thousand other external guys.
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Fedex uses outsourced vendors for most ground delivery services. I'd recommend a UPS delivery driver service. They do hire directly and you are a UPS employee. You can use that to apply for the pilot position as an internal applicant, instead of being in the pile with a few thousand other external guys.
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Fedex uses outsourced vendors for most ground delivery services. I'd recommend a UPS delivery driver service. They do hire directly and you are a UPS employee. You can use that to apply for the pilot position as an internal applicant, instead of being in the pile with a few thousand other external guys.
#617
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I will say this, I don't really understand where the 490 number comes from. There are currently 253 pilots on reserve right now, that's it. + or - a few because I may have miscounted. Here is a breakdown by base and position. More efficient lines wouldn't create 230 new reserves.
PHX CA 33
PHX FO 20
DFW CA 31
DFW FO 28
IAD CA 9
IAD FO 16
IAH CA 50
IAH FO 59
SDF CA 6
SDF FO 1
PHX CA 33
PHX FO 20
DFW CA 31
DFW FO 28
IAD CA 9
IAD FO 16
IAH CA 50
IAH FO 59
SDF CA 6
SDF FO 1
#618
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yah, get your foot inside the door at the company and maybe get a job flying at some point. Worth the try. I hear FedEx is a little easier than UPS. Crazier things have happened. If we were furloughed back when we should have been, I could have got last 2 quarters of pay averaged for unemployment plus 600 a week. Now it’s going to be min guarantee averaged, which in Texas per week is a little over $180 a week. I can’t survive on that, so while our “jobs” were saved, it really was a bust. I could have been getting $4000 a month off of unemployment, way more than sticking around. If the reduced minimum goes through and then they furlough it will be even worse. Talking around $100 per week for unemployment. Guys, something to think about. If you keep lowering the pay, the unemployment insurance goes so low, you can’t afford to even use it. Your intention was to help save jobs, but you put the poor FO’s in a weird and financially dangerous position.
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