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Old 09-06-2020, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld View Post
Isn’t UPS hiring delivery drivers, as well?
yah, get your foot inside the door at the company and maybe get a job flying at some point. Worth the try. I hear FedEx is a little easier than UPS. Crazier things have happened. If we were furloughed back when we should have been, I could have got last 2 quarters of pay averaged for unemployment plus 600 a week. Now it’s going to be min guarantee averaged, which in Texas per week is a little over $180 a week. I can’t survive on that, so while our “jobs” were saved, it really was a bust. I could have been getting $4000 a month off of unemployment, way more than sticking around. If the reduced minimum goes through and then they furlough it will be even worse. Talking around $100 per week for unemployment. Guys, something to think about. If you keep lowering the pay, the unemployment insurance goes so low, you can’t afford to even use it. Your intention was to help save jobs, but you put the poor FO’s in a weird and financially dangerous position.
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Old 09-06-2020, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld View Post
Lucifer, you obviously come from the fixed pie economics theory.
Nobody is buying tickets on Mesa or any other regional. So, the money goes into the mainline. They subcontract out the small jet flying to you for a fixed fee. They bid one regional against another to get the lowest CPA/FFD they can. The more that you get paid, the less there is to pay the mainline employees. There is only ONE pot of money.

I'll repeat; the less they pay regional employees, the more they can pay mainline employees. Do the math.
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Old 09-06-2020, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by propellere View Post
FedEx delivery driver. It’s going to be awesome. Still hiring if you want to come. Closest thing to flying. Few friends from TSA and Compass got hired. Good benefits.
Fedex uses outsourced vendors for most ground delivery services. I'd recommend a UPS delivery driver service. They do hire directly and you are a UPS employee. You can use that to apply for the pilot position as an internal applicant, instead of being in the pile with a few thousand other external guys.
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Old 09-06-2020, 06:50 AM
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Fedex uses outsourced vendors for most ground delivery services. I'd recommend a UPS delivery driver service. They do hire directly and you are a UPS employee. You can use that to apply for the pilot position as an internal applicant, instead of being in the pile with a few thousand other external guys.
Right. A non-current, low time regional FO. They're gonna be really hot to jump on that applicant. 🤣
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Old 09-06-2020, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post
Fedex uses outsourced vendors for most ground delivery services. I'd recommend a UPS delivery driver service. They do hire directly and you are a UPS employee. You can use that to apply for the pilot position as an internal applicant, instead of being in the pile with a few thousand other external guys.
Thanks, I should apply there as well. Appreciate the help.
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Right. A non-current, low time regional FO. They're gonna be really hot to jump on that applicant. 🤣
A lot of assumptions in this statement.
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Old 09-06-2020, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by terks43 View Post
I will say this, I don't really understand where the 490 number comes from. There are currently 253 pilots on reserve right now, that's it. + or - a few because I may have miscounted. Here is a breakdown by base and position. More efficient lines wouldn't create 230 new reserves.

PHX CA 33
PHX FO 20
DFW CA 31
DFW FO 28
IAD CA 9
IAD FO 16
IAH CA 50
IAH FO 59
SDF CA 6
SDF FO 1
Plus the additional 150ish on VLOA...
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Old 09-06-2020, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by propellere View Post
yah, get your foot inside the door at the company and maybe get a job flying at some point. Worth the try. I hear FedEx is a little easier than UPS. Crazier things have happened. If we were furloughed back when we should have been, I could have got last 2 quarters of pay averaged for unemployment plus 600 a week. Now it’s going to be min guarantee averaged, which in Texas per week is a little over $180 a week. I can’t survive on that, so while our “jobs” were saved, it really was a bust. I could have been getting $4000 a month off of unemployment, way more than sticking around. If the reduced minimum goes through and then they furlough it will be even worse. Talking around $100 per week for unemployment. Guys, something to think about. If you keep lowering the pay, the unemployment insurance goes so low, you can’t afford to even use it. Your intention was to help save jobs, but you put the poor FO’s in a weird and financially dangerous position.
It is a sold plan...but I do know for a fact that working as a driver for UPS/FedEx won’t give you an advantage or a potential spot to fly for them...but again IF a furlough happens, that’s a solid job. You know what we should do...we should all be rampers. We could get some quality heckling in from the outside.
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Old 09-06-2020, 11:42 AM
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There's no flying going on, how are you going to get ramp jobs?

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You know what we should do...we should all be rampers. We could get some quality heckling in from the outside.
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Old 09-06-2020, 11:46 AM
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There's no flying going on, how are you going to get ramp jobs?
There’s a ton on new hires walking all around DFW
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