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Old 08-05-2020 | 12:04 PM
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Are they really talking about reducing the min guarantee.


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Nobody knows. They are about as transparent as mud.
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Old 08-05-2020 | 01:18 PM
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I shouldn’t be surprised, but I am a little surprised, that ALPA sends out notification that WARN notices were being sent out the next day and then nothing. No WARN notice, no explanation from the union - nothing. The whole thing is very odd.
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Old 08-05-2020 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by airspeedsalive
I shouldn’t be surprised, but I am a little surprised, that ALPA sends out notification that WARN notices were being sent out the next day and then nothing. No WARN notice, no explanation from the union - nothing. The whole thing is very odd.
The company has a bit of a history of late telling the union one thing and doing another.
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Old 08-05-2020 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
The company has a bit of a history of late telling the union one thing and doing another.
That may be the case (and it probably is), then the union needs to send something out to the pilot group saying “disregard, we will update you when we have more information - Oh, and wear your masks”. I mean, good grief, don’t leave your membership hanging after announcing something like that.
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Old 08-05-2020 | 03:23 PM
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So how many of you have attempted to contact your rep?

l have sent emails with ZERO reply.

Everyone email them. No concessions.
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Old 08-05-2020 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by YVslave
So how many of you have attempted to contact your rep?

l have sent emails with ZERO reply.

Everyone email them. No concessions.
Spoken like the fat cat on top, not the early 20 year old with a young family facing the soon to be reality that they may be kicked to the street with literally no one hiring for their skill set. Not even McDonalds. If you want reality buddy this is it, there is no jobs to be had. It’s this or nothing. The entire country is in the worst economic situation that it’s been in for nearly 100 years and it ain’t recovering next year when the vaccine comes back. 5+ years until recovery, minimum.
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Old 08-05-2020 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by terks43
Spoken like the fat cat on top, not the early 20 year old with a young family facing the soon to be reality that they may be kicked to the street with literally no one hiring for their skill set. Not even McDonalds. If you want reality buddy this is it, there is no jobs to be had. It’s this or nothing. The entire country is in the worst economic situation that it’s been in for nearly 100 years and it ain’t recovering next year when the vaccine comes back. 5+ years until recovery, minimum.
A 20 year old needs to realize that concessions will make this job untenable. Concessions will hurt the 20 year old more than the old guy who has already gotten most of what he can. The 20 year old will work more than ten years trying to get back what they give up in concessions. No concessions.
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Old 08-05-2020 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin18
A 20 year old needs to realize that concessions will make this job untenable. Concessions will hurt the 20 year old more than the old guy who has already gotten most of what he can. The 20 year old will work more than ten years trying to get back what they give up in concessions. No concessions.
Without the concessions the 20 year old is on the street. End of story.
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Old 08-05-2020 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by terks43
Without the concessions the 20 year old is on the street. End of story.
If the twenty year old is going to be on the street, history tells us that concessions will not change that fact. Concessions would be a mistake for their future just as it would be for the grey hair who is safe at the top of the list. Give it up for this temporary situation and loose it for a decade or two.
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Old 08-05-2020 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
If the twenty year old is going to be on the street, history tells us that concessions will not change that fact. Concessions would be a mistake for their future just as it would be for the grey hair who is safe at the top of the list. Give it up for this temporary situation and loose it for a decade or two.
Yep. This business is seniority based and one of reasons for that is for times like these. It sucks, but so does this business sometimes. I’m not a 20 fat cat (like there is such a thing at Mesa), but I’ve got a family and mortgage, etc. It’s tough enough to keep it together at
76/hr. There will eventually be furloughs - we don’t make enough for concessions to make a serious difference.
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