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Old 06-29-2022 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
if you think we can afford anything more than $48 you are going stir crazy!! They gave us top dollar proposal. YOU said NO. If you think they will try and match Envoy get real. Our next proposal a year from now will probably be forty dollars per hour and no back pay!!! GOOD JOB fellow MESA pilots!!! I am SO proud of YOU
You are missing the point.
There will be no Mesa a year from now unless they start digging deeper in their pockets.

The pilots now have JO in a chokehold. He can either pay up, or he can shut down the company. Those are the options, and the ball is in pilots court.
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Old 06-29-2022 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
if you think we can afford anything more than $48 you are going stir crazy!! They gave us top dollar proposal. YOU said NO. If you think they will try and match Envoy get real. Our next proposal a year from now will probably be forty dollars per hour and no back pay!!! GOOD JOB fellow MESA pilots!!! I am SO proud of YOU
You still living in the early 2000's?
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Old 06-29-2022 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
How selfish of all you guys!!!! I don’t even think I’ll be for to fly the rest of my trip!!! I am so mad. We were offered more money than REPUBLIC OR SKYWEST and you thought voting that down would be right??? I am so mad! I can’t believe how you all turned your backs on this company and your fellow pilot brethren. What do you think they are going to come back with more? We probably won’t see negotiations for another year. So think of all the FOs that you just stuck on year 1 pay who could have had a very nice bump in pay. Most of us here can’t move on and now since of your greedy ness most of us here won’t be able to afford any items like boats or house. Greedy greedy I say. I am so disappointed in this group of pilots I can’t even breathe
Hahahahahahaha!!
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Old 06-29-2022 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
MESA is a LOW COST REGIONAL. The amount of money that they threw out is STAGGERING. And you all turned it down!!!! They will shut the company down before they pay us more GOOD JOB
If this company can’t afford to pay standard rates as per the actual market, shouldn’t be in business.
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Old 06-29-2022 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
they offered standard rates!
How? Initial hire rate was lower than all other Aviate UAXs. I don't know why SkyWest or Republic is your measuring stick.
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Old 06-29-2022 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
How selfish of all you guys!!!! I don’t even think I’ll be for to fly the rest of my trip!!! I am so mad. We were offered more money than REPUBLIC OR SKYWEST and you thought voting that down would be right??? I am so mad! I can’t believe how you all turned your backs on this company and your fellow pilot brethren. What do you think they are going to come back with more? We probably won’t see negotiations for another year. So think of all the FOs that you just stuck on year 1 pay who could have had a very nice bump in pay. Most of us here can’t move on and now since of your greedy ness most of us here won’t be able to afford any items like boats or house. Greedy greedy I say. I am so disappointed in this group of pilots I can’t even breathe

You can go back to wearing mommies dresses in the basement now.
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Old 06-30-2022 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
they offered standard rates! The rates are higher than REPUBLIC and Skywest!! We used to be 14 dollar from Envoy, the new rate put us at $12 away from Envoy! They closed the gap and put us HIGHER than our competitors. What were you thinking!???
lol. I’m glad y’all voted no just to see the trolls response
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Old 06-30-2022 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JonValor
Any predictions?

Think we can just get the 48 without the vote? Think after the year negation we can vote to 70-90 first year FO? Will United or American help us out with money? Think one will buy us and make us wholly owned?

As for me, hoping for the best. I like the thought of Houston with my family and the people I’ve met. I’m going to wait it out for now.
You wont get 48 after rejecting an agreement. The process is well defined. The pilot group rejected the TA. That TA is dead and gone.
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Old 06-30-2022 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bushmaster78FSA
How? Initial hire rate was lower than all other Aviate UAXs. I don't know why SkyWest or Republic is your measuring stick.
Skywest and Republic are Mesa peers flying for multiple carriers. The single carrier regionals are a different animal.
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Old 06-30-2022 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JonValor
Any predictions?

Think we can just get the 48 without the vote? Think after the year negation we can vote to 70-90 first year FO? Will United or American help us out with money? Think one will buy us and make us wholly owned?

As for me, hoping for the best. I like the thought of Houston with my family and the people I’ve met. I’m going to wait it out for now.
You need an LOA to increase pay rates. The pay rates are set in the CBA and can not be changed without MEC concurrence.
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