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08-29-2022 | 03:38 PM
#491
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Things are constantly changing. I chose Mesa specifically because they were the only airline that could guarantee me a IAH base and the easiest commute which was the number one priority for me. I took the job job regardless of the terrible pay hoping I’d upgrade within a year or so (I have prior 121 experience) then Covid hit. Pay never improved and I’m in the process of bailing now because of the ****show of our training department. I flew with a new captain recently that took 6 months to upgrade at FO min credit, and another CA upgrade that got an engine failure after a missed approach and then an engine fire on the other engine a couple hundred feet later. Basically illegal to do that and purposely trying to fail him.
You can guess what examiner did that. The training department is in shambles. People failing “AQP” or recurrent training should not be happening as often as it does. I’m outta here regardless of the pay increase specifically because of our training department.
You can guess what examiner did that. The training department is in shambles. People failing “AQP” or recurrent training should not be happening as often as it does. I’m outta here regardless of the pay increase specifically because of our training department.
AQP is more standard and much better, depending on how the airline uses it. Some AQP airlines are just as worse.
08-29-2022 | 06:27 PM
#492
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From: ERJ 170
Things are constantly changing. I chose Mesa specifically because they were the only airline that could guarantee me a IAH base and the easiest commute which was the number one priority for me. I took the job job regardless of the terrible pay hoping I’d upgrade within a year or so (I have prior 121 experience) then Covid hit. Pay never improved and I’m in the process of bailing now because of the ****show of our training department. I flew with a new captain recently that took 6 months to upgrade at FO min credit, and another CA upgrade that got an engine failure after a missed approach and then an engine fire on the other engine a couple hundred feet later. Basically illegal to do that and purposely trying to fail him.
You can guess what examiner did that. The training department is in shambles. People failing “AQP” or recurrent training should not be happening as often as it does. I’m outta here regardless of the pay increase specifically because of our training department.
You can guess what examiner did that. The training department is in shambles. People failing “AQP” or recurrent training should not be happening as often as it does. I’m outta here regardless of the pay increase specifically because of our training department.
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08-29-2022 | 07:53 PM
#494
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Also, there are definitely rouge examiners out there without a doubt. Maybe not Mesa ones, but other airlines (PSA, Skywest)
08-29-2022 | 09:42 PM
#495
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Probably a sim mis configuration. Or an error handling the first that set the conditions true to trigger the second. But that should not happen on a check ride or it should be reset. But I might let it go a bit to see how it’s handled. But I’m not a sim instructor either.
08-30-2022 | 03:50 AM
#496
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Talking about PSA airlines ...
https://casetext.com/case/occhione-v-psa-airlines
This case concerns a pilot in a First Officer position who, on two occasions, voluntarily applied to be promoted to Captain, but failed to pass the required basic flight skills test four times.
I've heard bad stories about training departments, specially from PSA, GoJet, and Breeze.
I just went through Recurrent @ Mesa. It was basically the same as AQP. Instead of a Loft, there are steep turns and a Cat II part of it now.
https://casetext.com/case/occhione-v-psa-airlines
This case concerns a pilot in a First Officer position who, on two occasions, voluntarily applied to be promoted to Captain, but failed to pass the required basic flight skills test four times.
I've heard bad stories about training departments, specially from PSA, GoJet, and Breeze.
I just went through Recurrent @ Mesa. It was basically the same as AQP. Instead of a Loft, there are steep turns and a Cat II part of it now.
08-30-2022 | 04:24 AM
#497
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Which is it?
08-30-2022 | 04:53 AM
#498
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08-30-2022 | 06:52 AM
#499
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From: CRJ9 CA
Upgrade failure rate isn’t that high. It just isn’t. However I will say this: Some people shouldn’t be captains. They do fail. They take it as a gimme when it’s not. Poor ADM. This can’t be taught (well it can but we don’t do it). People don’t want to sit reserve. So they delay upgrade. Those recently upgrading are pilots who tried previously and failed. Their failure rate is higher. Crj upgrading into ejet has a high failure rate. Ca to ca not such a high failure rate. But I watch the failure rate and it’s not 70%. It’s under 25.
08-30-2022 | 07:42 AM
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Upgrade failure rate isn’t that high. It just isn’t. However I will say this: Some people shouldn’t be captains. They do fail. They take it as a gimme when it’s not. Poor ADM. This can’t be taught (well it can but we don’t do it). People don’t want to sit reserve. So they delay upgrade. Those recently upgrading are pilots who tried previously and failed. Their failure rate is higher. Crj upgrading into ejet has a high failure rate. Ca to ca not such a high failure rate. But I watch the failure rate and it’s not 70%. It’s under 25.
BTW, how do you keep track of the pass/fail rate?
