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08-26-2014 | 04:00 PM
#2722
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Happiness = Reality - Expectations
For those of us who came here from other airlines in 2013, the above equation is working out pretty well--we came in from dying 50-seat operations with no hope of upgrade, before Mesa's current growth wave, with very low expectations. The reality (at this moment in time) has far exceeded my expectations for what I thought would be a short stint at Mesa prior to leaving for a contract job overseas (I decided to stay when upgrade times plummeted and deliveries were announced).
Obviously, there are many trolls on this thread who signed up for other "better" regionals with high expectations, and now that their reality isn't meeting up to their expectations, they're taking out their unhappiness on those of us who randomly got lucky and had things work out.
There is nothing to be gained at the regional level by getting personally worked up about the business cycle, and there is nothing to be sacrificed because any regional who pushes the bar too high simply gets cut down to their knees again. I've been on both sides of the above equation at different times in my career, and you simply have to get over yourself and not get emotionally invested in this job--ever.
Mesa will eventually stop living up to people's expectations of quick upgrades/holding bases/etc..--I don't know when that will be--but no amount of hating/trolling/Mesa-bashing is going to speed up or slow down the microeconomics and market forces that are leading people to work here.
For those of us who came here from other airlines in 2013, the above equation is working out pretty well--we came in from dying 50-seat operations with no hope of upgrade, before Mesa's current growth wave, with very low expectations. The reality (at this moment in time) has far exceeded my expectations for what I thought would be a short stint at Mesa prior to leaving for a contract job overseas (I decided to stay when upgrade times plummeted and deliveries were announced).
Obviously, there are many trolls on this thread who signed up for other "better" regionals with high expectations, and now that their reality isn't meeting up to their expectations, they're taking out their unhappiness on those of us who randomly got lucky and had things work out.
There is nothing to be gained at the regional level by getting personally worked up about the business cycle, and there is nothing to be sacrificed because any regional who pushes the bar too high simply gets cut down to their knees again. I've been on both sides of the above equation at different times in my career, and you simply have to get over yourself and not get emotionally invested in this job--ever.
Mesa will eventually stop living up to people's expectations of quick upgrades/holding bases/etc..--I don't know when that will be--but no amount of hating/trolling/Mesa-bashing is going to speed up or slow down the microeconomics and market forces that are leading people to work here.
08-26-2014 | 04:01 PM
#2723
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How do you know what our working conditions are, having not actually worked here?
I've worked here and Pinnacle--Mesa treats us better at the moment
Prior121 has worked here and Republic--he seems to feel pretty strongly that Mesa treats us better at the moment.
I don't see any new hires hitting the line here who weren't fully aware of our contract, working conditions, and payscale when they signed up.
You act like a child who didn't get what they wanted. I'm sorry we have shiny new toys to upgrade onto at Mesa--if it makes you feel any better a lot of the people going through upgrade here have been through their fair share of hardship in this industry--whether that was going through bankruptcy at Mesa, or in the case of myself and other former Pinnacle/Colgan people, having fought for years for a new contract, only to have it shoved down our throats by a bankruptcy court (with downgrades, base closures, and furlough notices ensuing soon thereafter).
I'm starting to realize that the only people bashing Mesa are: 1) People who washed out at Mesa or 2) People who have only worked for one regional in their lifetime, who are mad because Mesa is doing well and their similarly-crappy regional is not
I've worked here and Pinnacle--Mesa treats us better at the moment
Prior121 has worked here and Republic--he seems to feel pretty strongly that Mesa treats us better at the moment.
I don't see any new hires hitting the line here who weren't fully aware of our contract, working conditions, and payscale when they signed up.
You act like a child who didn't get what they wanted. I'm sorry we have shiny new toys to upgrade onto at Mesa--if it makes you feel any better a lot of the people going through upgrade here have been through their fair share of hardship in this industry--whether that was going through bankruptcy at Mesa, or in the case of myself and other former Pinnacle/Colgan people, having fought for years for a new contract, only to have it shoved down our throats by a bankruptcy court (with downgrades, base closures, and furlough notices ensuing soon thereafter).
I'm starting to realize that the only people bashing Mesa are: 1) People who washed out at Mesa or 2) People who have only worked for one regional in their lifetime, who are mad because Mesa is doing well and their similarly-crappy regional is not
I "know" what dozens of first officers have told me that left Mesa due to the horrible conditions and treatment they received there.
08-26-2014 | 04:05 PM
#2724
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Everyone should fly 135 freight, than talk to me about how QOL horrible at the regionals.
08-26-2014 | 04:24 PM
#2727
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How staffed/understaffed are they at the moment? A lot of attrition?
08-26-2014 | 04:45 PM
#2728
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From: gear slinger
Seriously dude, this debate keeps going round and round with the same results. Folks keep repeating the same old dribble like some sort of depressing country music song, and yes it used to be a horrible place to work but times have changed. I jumpseat on SKW and encounter quite a few ex Mesa guys and the pre bankruptcy days sounded terrible, and I would've bailed too after getting furloughed and treated like feces. But those days are gone hoss, and people need to get the eff over it.
It's really not as bad as the internet wants you to believe. Myself and several other new guys are making it work with a transcon commute to reserve while we ride the seniority train out west. The new guys are holding lines in IAD a month out of training. The sun still comes up every morning and we keep clicking along.
08-26-2014 | 04:57 PM
#2729
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Seriously dude, this debate keeps going round and round with the same results. Folks keep repeating the same old dribble like some sort of depressing country music song, and yes it used to be a horrible place to work but times have changed. I jumpseat on SKW and encounter quite a few ex Mesa guys and the pre bankruptcy days sounded terrible, and I would've bailed too after getting furloughed and treated like feces. But those days are gone hoss, and people need to get the eff over it.
It's really not as bad as the internet wants you to believe. Myself and several other new guys are making it work with a transcon commute to reserve while we ride the seniority train out west. The new guys are holding lines in IAD a month out of training. The sun still comes up every morning and we keep clicking along.
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