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Old 09-02-2014 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
J.O.'s wife and daughter enjoy sitting on the beach in Mexico sippin' Mai Tais while you chase your carrot. Don't worry, they'll send you a post card about it in December to cheer you up.
No one drinks Mai Tai's in Mexico. They drink margarita's!
Old 09-02-2014 | 01:25 PM
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I need a cold margarita!!!
Old 09-03-2014 | 11:40 AM
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I don't want to stoke the trolls on here, but I'm in agreement with them on one point--it seems really, really hilarious that Mesa pilots--the lowest-paid CRJ pilots in the country--are some of the biggest supporters of the ALPA PAC fund.

Mesa pilots are paying to protect 777 jobs at United from Emirates & Ethiad. United has hired something like 2 or 3 Mesa pilots in the last year, and it'll be a decade or more before they upgrade or even touch a widebody.

Meanwhile, Emirates & Ethiad are hiring Americans in droves, straight onto 777s, A380s, & A330s, with better pay & benefits, and if they ever penetrated the US market to a greater extent, they'd very likely setup crew bases in JFK/LAX/ORD/IAH/etc..

ALPA PAC is doing zero--zilch--nada to address things like the Railway Labor Act, scope at legacies, determinations of "common transportation system," or a minimum wage for pilots. WHY are Mesa pilots of all people paying to protect widebody jobs at airlines that aren't hiring them, in an attempt to hurt airlines who WILL hire them to fly widebodies?

If ALPA PAC were fighting for the QOL/pay/career of ALL pilots, their core focus would be getting airlines out of the Railway Labor Act, or at least getting airline pilots the full benefits of it (i.e. an Airline Retirement Board/pension like the railroads have). And instead of trying to block competition from higher-paying foreign airlines via cabotage/foreign ownership laws, they'd be pushing for legislation allowing them to do unlimited flying in the US as long as they hired US pilots at or above current US legacy payrates.

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Old 09-03-2014 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
I don't want to stoke the trolls on here, but I'm in agreement with them on one point--it seems really, really hilarious that Mesa pilots--the lowest-paid CRJ pilots in the country--are some of the biggest supporters of the ALPA PAC fund.

Mesa pilots are paying to protect 777 jobs at United from Emirates & Ethiad. United has hired something like 2 or 3 Mesa pilots in the last year, and it'll be a decade or more before they upgrade or even touch a widebody.

Meanwhile, Emirates & Ethiad are hiring Americans in droves, straight onto 777s, A380s, & A330s, with better pay & benefits, and if they ever penetrated the US market to a greater extent, they'd very likely setup crew bases in JFK/LAX/ORD/IAH/etc..

ALPA PAC is doing zero--zilch--nada to address things like the Railway Labor Act, scope at legacies, determinations of "common transportation system," or a minimum wage for pilots. WHY are Mesa pilots of all people paying to protect widebody jobs at airlines that aren't hiring them, in an attempt to hurt airlines who WILL hire them to fly widebodies?

If ALPA PAC were fighting for the QOL/pay/career of ALL pilots, their core focus would be getting airlines out of the Railway Labor Act, or at least getting airline pilots the full benefits of it (i.e. an Airline Retirement Board/pension like the railroads have). And instead of trying to block competition from higher-paying foreign airlines via cabotage/foreign ownership laws, they'd be pushing for legislation allowing them to do unlimited flying in the US as long as they hired US pilots at or above current US legacy payrates.

I think a large number if new supporters are roped into it during training when they fill out their ALPA forms and are thinking more about the free flashlight than the implications of supporting a PAC. Most probably don't even know what a PAC is.
Old 09-03-2014 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
The whole flashlight thing shouldn't be a surprise at all, by merely attending indoc Mesa newhires have proven how easily attracted they are to shiny things.
Yes...same thing goes for new hires at PSA, and Skywest, and Republic, and TSA...must I go on?
Old 09-03-2014 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
The whole flashlight thing shouldn't be a surprise at all, by merely attending indoc Mesa newhires have proven how easily attracted they are to shiny things.
I'm attracted to your mom. Does that count?

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Old 09-03-2014 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Yes...same thing goes for new hires at PSA, and Skywest, and Republic, and TSA...must I go on?
I don't think anyone is really banging down the door at Republic these days. Although, the upgrade times are getting better according to several CrashPad mates of mine.
Old 09-03-2014 | 05:46 PM
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Must be Skywest then since their first year pay is lower than Mesa.
Old 09-03-2014 | 09:07 PM
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Mod Note:

You kids knock it off. It's getting annoying.

Lucky I'm on my tablet so I'm going to delete the posts I find annoying and inappropriate, but the reminders and infractions and what not will have to be self apparent.

I'm getting ready for my beloved seahawks home opener tomorrow so please do not sour my mood.
Old 09-03-2014 | 09:12 PM
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Packers got this one

I mean, airline stuff! Rabble rabble!
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