Couldn't agree more. Talked to a United guy who came out of training recently. He said average new hire at United is 45 with 14Kish total time and 7Kish TPIC.

Do you need TPIC to be hired at a major? No. Will everyone else be hired in front of you that has TPIC? Likely.

 

Probably because the majors haven't been hiring in the last decade. Now that they are, the first to get hired are the high time guys with resumes that set them apart. And military. And well connected people.

Why then would they lower their minimums? To propagate the pilot shortage rumor and seem more attainable for people considering aviation as a career?

The folks I have talked to seem to all say the same thing. The whole resume is what counts, not the flight time portion.

At the end of the day, everyone wants the same thing. Good pay and benefits, good schedule, and good treatment by management. How we get to that end state varies for everyone. We can debate the TPIC and its merits ad nauseum, but at the end of the day, an 8k hour FO whose seniority can't hold captain and an 18 month upgrade captain with 8k hours and a bunch of TPIC have been doing the same job, alternating PF/PM duties, but for more pay and debatably more responsibility. But whole crews are violated and held accountable, not just the captain, and we all have to have pic types and ATPs and meet the same standards for checkrides, so I give little credence to that notion. And I think majors agree, hence their dropping tpic from mins.

 

To my Career Coach,
Here's an employee number for you #58008. You can block that on your bid. BTW, You should put it in your calculator and look at it upside down okay?

- FB

 

The legacies have not changed their requirements just so they can hire low time first officers.

They have dropped certain requirements so that the certain exceptions can be hired.

The is NO pilot shortage at the majors.

At the regional level alone, there are 5-7k worth of experienced CAs each having 3k + worth of TPIC trying to move on.

I was trying to understand why you seem to be so miseducated, I read some other posts and realized that you're a C-152 CFI.

Thanks, I just got my daily LOL.

Probably would be helpful to do a couple years actually working in the industry before you give advice.

Or maybe an initial training experience and IOE to humble ya a little. Don't ya think?

 

I don't have a CFI certificate or an hour of 152 time in my logbook. Until these boards require identities, I wouldn't trust a profile one way or another. And I wouldn't exactly say I was humbled by my initial and my IOE at Mesa. It was about as easy as the interview.

 

If you suck, eventually you will get weeded out at Mesa. Nice people get many chances, jerks do not. I have to say that the pilot group is a great bunch of people to work with. Regionals can't afford to be picky, they need to fill seats. The job itself is the selection process.
As for the upgrade times, it depends on the Captains moving on. It has been a very slow trickle. I say the vast majority of attrition has been with f.o's.

 

Can anyone speak to the 175 operation in IAH? Think XJT guys are passing around rumors that they're gonna be flying your 175s soon. Even though from my small research into it, you guys seem to be expanding and flying to 8-10 destinations right now.

 

We've covered this several times in this thread already. Last time was just a couple of pages back. The Mesa E175 in IAH is currently #1 in all performance metrics among all UAX carriers. IF there is any talking going on, it's about more, not fewer aircraft.

 

So several queries and no responses later, I am assuming JO didn't say anything noteworthy at the town hall meeting. Anyone hear anything different?

 

To expand on this, we have over 13,000 applicants in the airline apps pool for UA. Captain's from Jetblue, World Airways, and some others have recently come in for meet & greets. I personally have written an LOR for a friend who's an A330 CA at Emirates. If things stay status quo with deliveries, etc then we will be hiring 60 per month for the foreseeable future. As soon as management makes a decision on the 100 seat aircraft then we will most certainly increase hiring.

We are seeing some folks with 0 TPIC getting hired but they are few and far between. Most likely they are former interns, etc.