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Old 01-22-2015 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RB211
Bigger problem is that we have no leverage in pushing for a new contract, J.O. has no incentive to sign a new contract, our new hire classes are always full, and attrition is very low the more senior you go. Things will change I suppose the first time a new hire class is empty, if that ever happens.
It's closer to happening than you think. The well of qualified applicants is very definitely drying up: they're working to fill classes less than 3 weeks out now, as opposed to 3+ months out a short while ago. Signing bonuses may be coming.
Old 01-22-2015 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
Does this statement only apply to cancellations and your line guarantee or does under blocking cancel out over blocking normally?
Yes, they cancel each other out. It's total cumulative hours flown for that bid. If it's over awarded line guarantee you get paid the extra hours. To make it easy, if you have one leg left on the last trip of the bid. And you're projected to be one hour over block using that last legs scheduled block. Then, you end up blocking in 30 minutes early, now your only paid .5 hours more for the bid instead of the 1.0.
Old 01-22-2015 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
It's closer to happening than you think. The well of qualified applicants is very definitely drying up: they're working to fill classes less than 3 weeks out now, as opposed to 3+ months out a short while ago. Signing bonuses may be coming.
I always said be patient. When classes start drying up and mainline starts hiring full force. A good contract will have to be signed. But hopefully I will be in the right seat of the Mad Dog by then.
Old 01-22-2015 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
Lines are up on Crew Trac.
^^^^Thanks.
Old 01-22-2015 | 09:29 AM
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Dude, you need to work on your bid, that line you got sucks.
Old 01-22-2015 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
Lines are up on Crew Trac.

Anyone know why so few lines in DFW? I had much better relative seniority than I would've had in IAD or PHX but still got reserve. Would've held a line in either of those other bases.
Old 01-22-2015 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by skillett
Yes, they cancel each other out. It's total cumulative hours flown for that bid. If it's over awarded line guarantee you get paid the extra hours. To make it easy, if you have one leg left on the last trip of the bid. And you're projected to be one hour over block using that last legs scheduled block. Then, you end up blocking in 30 minutes early, now your only paid .5 hours more for the bid instead of the 1.0.
Wow, that really sucks. In my experience with the Usairways flying, most flights are scheduled slightly longer than it usually takes. I usually end up under blocking more than I over block. A 20 hour four day might have 6 hours of under blocking and 2 hours of over blocking. I would credit/paid for 22 hours and my block would be 16. In sounds like at Mesa you just get the 20 hours scheduled in that situation.
Old 01-22-2015 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
Wow, that really sucks. In my experience with the Usairways flying, most flights are scheduled slightly longer than it usually takes. I usually end up under blocking more than I over block. A 20 hour four day might have 6 hours of under blocking and 2 hours of over blocking. I would credit/paid for 22 hours and my block would be 16. In sounds like at Mesa you just get the 20 hours scheduled in that situation.
Yes, you rarely actually over block for the bid. But I have done it a few times.
Old 01-22-2015 | 10:43 AM
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When we voted yes on this contract we were chumped. After the vote Mesa's lawyers went in and chopped it up. But at least if you're awarded a 90 hour line and 10 flights cancel you get 90. Not 70 like the old contract.
Old 01-22-2015 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by skillett
Yes, they cancel each other out. It's total cumulative hours flown for that bid. If it's over awarded line guarantee you get paid the extra hours. To make it easy, if you have one leg left on the last trip of the bid. And you're projected to be one hour over block using that last legs scheduled block. Then, you end up blocking in 30 minutes early, now your only paid .5 hours more for the bid instead of the 1.0.
Holy crap this cannot be true!! You guys don't even have leg by leg block or better?

I feel even more for you poor guys. That is like literally the worst contract. Screw J.O.
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