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05-18-2015 | 09:10 PM
#8291
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This was addressed a few pages back. Mesa has a lot of lifer Captains and low-time FO's, so naturally it won't be a big chunk of the hiring demographic for a year or two.
05-18-2015 | 09:19 PM
#8292
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Lol how many more pilots does Xjet and skywest have than Mesa. A couple years ago Mesa had what less than 600 pilots.
05-19-2015 | 06:30 AM
#8293
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Here's the Delta graphic:
Considering how many lifers are at the top and low timers at the bottom, 16 pilots to United and Delta isn't bad. It'll grow, and there were probably a few American, et al., hires out there. At Mesa, it's rare to fly with a non-bizarre, young-ish, sub-10,000 hour captain. Maybe we just don't have that many candidates.
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Considering how many lifers are at the top and low timers at the bottom, 16 pilots to United and Delta isn't bad. It'll grow, and there were probably a few American, et al., hires out there. At Mesa, it's rare to fly with a non-bizarre, young-ish, sub-10,000 hour captain. Maybe we just don't have that many candidates.
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05-19-2015 | 06:57 AM
#8294
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Where did you guys get those cool hiring stat charts? Do they make them for the LCCs too?
05-19-2015 | 07:14 AM
#8295
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I'm with wt... for the most part.
If this new proposal sucks, which it most likely will, vote no. If it's good, vote yes. (Sucks=Still below industry standard) My second grade teacher taught me a very valuable quote that was along the lines of, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."
I'm one of those old crusty downgrade captains (young 30's) that was brought up to fight for what I know is right and what I believe. I've got almost a dozen recs, a bachelors degree, a few thousand hours PIC, volunteer work 4-6 days a month plus a lot more than most have. No call. But I'm sure the young guns that think I and my fellow friends/coworkers in the same boat, will get in as soon as they get that precious PIC. (Please thank your parents for giving a trophy to every kid no matter the result win or loss)
Unless you're at a Skywest INC, a different regional or can check one of two boxes white males can't, you might want to mentally prepare yourself for what's about not to happen to your career. You're not the only one TRULY TRYING to move on. Let's talk in two years and see how you feel at Mesa. Do research on who has left Mesa for a legacy in the past 6 months.
If you're a quitter and the proposal sucks, vote yes for that extra pop tart a year. So many more have sacrificed so much more than we ever could. Goodnight all.
If this new proposal sucks, which it most likely will, vote no. If it's good, vote yes. (Sucks=Still below industry standard) My second grade teacher taught me a very valuable quote that was along the lines of, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."
I'm one of those old crusty downgrade captains (young 30's) that was brought up to fight for what I know is right and what I believe. I've got almost a dozen recs, a bachelors degree, a few thousand hours PIC, volunteer work 4-6 days a month plus a lot more than most have. No call. But I'm sure the young guns that think I and my fellow friends/coworkers in the same boat, will get in as soon as they get that precious PIC. (Please thank your parents for giving a trophy to every kid no matter the result win or loss)
Unless you're at a Skywest INC, a different regional or can check one of two boxes white males can't, you might want to mentally prepare yourself for what's about not to happen to your career. You're not the only one TRULY TRYING to move on. Let's talk in two years and see how you feel at Mesa. Do research on who has left Mesa for a legacy in the past 6 months.
If you're a quitter and the proposal sucks, vote yes for that extra pop tart a year. So many more have sacrificed so much more than we ever could. Goodnight all.
In regards to "regional pedigree" I can tell you first hand that it does not matter. Recently I was on a van from DEN to DENTK with a couple of new-hires and one was from Mesa (CRJ CA I believe). The other one was from TSA, and had been at Mesa until '07.
05-19-2015 | 10:26 AM
#8297
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You mind posting the Delta one?
05-19-2015 | 11:03 AM
#8298
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From: gear slinger
05-19-2015 | 11:07 AM
#8299
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My bad scrolled past it thinking it was the United one again.
05-19-2015 | 04:44 PM
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I'm with wt... for the most part.
If this new proposal sucks, which it most likely will, vote no. If it's good, vote yes. (Sucks=Still below industry standard) My second grade teacher taught me a very valuable quote that was along the lines of, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."
I'm one of those old crusty downgrade captains (young 30's) that was brought up to fight for what I know is right and what I believe. I've got almost a dozen recs, a bachelors degree, a few thousand hours PIC, volunteer work 4-6 days a month plus a lot more than most have. No call. But I'm sure the young guns that think I and my fellow friends/coworkers in the same boat, will get in as soon as they get that precious PIC. (Please thank your parents for giving a trophy to every kid no matter the result win or loss)
Unless you're at a Skywest INC, a different regional or can check one of two boxes white males can't, you might want to mentally prepare yourself for what's about not to happen to your career. You're not the only one TRULY TRYING to move on. Let's talk in two years and see how you feel at Mesa. Do research on who has left Mesa for a legacy in the past 6 months.
If you're a quitter and the proposal sucks, vote yes for that extra pop tart a year. So many more have sacrificed so much more than we ever could. Goodnight all.
If this new proposal sucks, which it most likely will, vote no. If it's good, vote yes. (Sucks=Still below industry standard) My second grade teacher taught me a very valuable quote that was along the lines of, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."
I'm one of those old crusty downgrade captains (young 30's) that was brought up to fight for what I know is right and what I believe. I've got almost a dozen recs, a bachelors degree, a few thousand hours PIC, volunteer work 4-6 days a month plus a lot more than most have. No call. But I'm sure the young guns that think I and my fellow friends/coworkers in the same boat, will get in as soon as they get that precious PIC. (Please thank your parents for giving a trophy to every kid no matter the result win or loss)
Unless you're at a Skywest INC, a different regional or can check one of two boxes white males can't, you might want to mentally prepare yourself for what's about not to happen to your career. You're not the only one TRULY TRYING to move on. Let's talk in two years and see how you feel at Mesa. Do research on who has left Mesa for a legacy in the past 6 months.
If you're a quitter and the proposal sucks, vote yes for that extra pop tart a year. So many more have sacrificed so much more than we ever could. Goodnight all.
Cry me a river bro--at least you weren't on the street.
It's comical listening to people like you and wt huffing and puffing about how hard you had it, when the only reason you've had a job (and kept your seniority) for the last decade is that you "bent over" and kept working under a concessionary contract.
I literally roll my eyes and laugh everytime I hear a Mesa pilot like you huff and puff about "holding the line" and "holding out for what you deserve." You have no idea what you're talking about--you didn't even get furloughed by Mesa in the downturn. No one should listen to you, because you've never "held the line" and gone through the consequences that ensue.
You guys also keep confusing the current profitability of our legacy partners with the financial position of Mesa and other regionals. Do you think the MEC is just lying to us about the results of the independent audit? Sure, JO could have a bunch of money in some offshore account that we don't know about, but I for one am not voting against a payraise based on a conspiracy theory.
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