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Old 05-19-2015 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
Awwwwwww...you had to DOWNGRADE to survive the recession?

Cry me a river bro--at least you weren't on the street.

It's comical listening to people like you and wt huffing and puffing about how hard you had it, when the only reason you've had a job (and kept your seniority) for the last decade is that you "bent over" and kept working under a concessionary contract.

I literally roll my eyes and laugh everytime I hear a Mesa pilot like you huff and puff about "holding the line" and "holding out for what you deserve." You have no idea what you're talking about--you didn't even get furloughed by Mesa in the downturn. No one should listen to you, because you've never "held the line" and gone through the consequences that ensue.

You guys also keep confusing the current profitability of our legacy partners with the financial position of Mesa and other regionals. Do you think the MEC is just lying to us about the results of the independent audit? Sure, JO could have a bunch of money in some offshore account that we don't know about, but I for one am not voting against a payraise based on a conspiracy theory.
When did we have to take contract concessions? They forgot to deduct from mine I guess. And it's not a conspirators theory to know that Mesa gets business by grossly underbidding our competitors. How are we able to do this? That's right, we work for a fraction of what others do. But when we have people like you vowing to vote 'yes' if they throw an extra quarter your way, how could we lose!? Quit being shortsighted. We're being whipsawed against each other and legacy management is winning. We're subsidizing their multi billion dollar yearly profit. But please, take your shiny new quarter and feel proud. You seem to have animosity toward me but I think it's deeper than that. It may come from the fact you know I just might be right...wear your ten year pin with pride buddy.
Old 05-19-2015 | 05:51 PM
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Just went through DFW today. It's just as horrendous as it was 6 months ago. Maybe worse. How have all those clowns on the ramp not been fired? Why does American stand for it?
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Just went through DFW today. It's just as horrendous as it was 6 months ago. Maybe worse. How have all those clowns on the ramp not been fired? Why does American stand for it?
Because they are unionized and know the system and how to play it. Unlike ALPA, their union is very strong. Get caught marshalling in an airplane at a gate you weren't assigned to and you'll be getting a phone call from the union the same day. Most of them are prior Executive Airlines guys and have been around for a LONG time.
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Just went through DFW today. It's just as horrendous as it was 6 months ago. Maybe worse. How have all those clowns on the ramp not been fired? Why does American stand for it?
It's sickening. They probably stand for it because it's cheap.
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
It's sickening. They probably stand for it because it's cheap.
Yea DFW still remains a joke. I can't tell you how many times a flight has been delayed because no one has jet bridge keys so I can get outside and do my walk around.
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
It's sickening. They probably stand for it because it's cheap.
That's the other half of it: new hires make nothing now. The envoy president said he hired 200 new guys right before the rebanking two months ago. New guys wear orange vests for 3-6 months. Here we are just a few months later and very very few orange vests left. It hasn't even gotten hot yet. Usually by mid summer, we are out of new hires and all that is left is the lazy long term guys, who are moving even slower because they know they have even less of a chance of being fired.

Things were fine here until some moron came up with "Dynamic Manning". They spent a fortune on hand held computers to tell everyone where to go, and now a fortune on jet fuel from planes idling for gates. All so they could shave a few rampers off. Stupid.
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:40 PM
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Speaking on new hires, one guy in DFW was marshaling us in wearing a beanie and skinny jeans. It was 87 degrees out.
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
It's sickening. They probably stand for it because it's cheap.

Hmmm... Sounds familiar.....
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Hmmm... Sounds familiar.....
Despite being cheap, Mesa does a pretty good job.
Old 05-19-2015 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
Despite being cheap, Mesa does a pretty good job.
Ummmm....I don't mind calling out my own company as above, but you are cheap for a reason. Your 900s break a lot here in DFW. I have had 2 Mesa deadheads cancel this month and it wasn't weather.
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