Search

Notices
Mesa Airlines Regional Airline

Mesa

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-20-2015 | 12:39 PM
  #8911  
Snuffaluffagus's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 359
Likes: 1
From: 737 FO
Default

Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Having to pay the 2 bucks a month for KCM never really bothered me. It's not like you need it to show up for work, if you don't want to spend the 2 bucks a month then don't get KCM. It's the same for the iPad, no one is forcing you to pay for an iPad if you don't want to. Save the money and use paper charts. These are indeed nice things but no one is being forced to pay for them and use them if they don't want to. Would it be nice to have these things paid for by the company? Absolutely, but I can understand why they don't.
You are management's wet dream
Old 06-20-2015 | 12:44 PM
  #8912  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 12,523
Likes: 1,113
Default

Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Having to pay the 2 bucks a month for KCM never really bothered me. It's not like you need it to show up for work, if you don't want to spend the 2 bucks a month then don't get KCM. It's the same for the iPad, no one is forcing you to pay for an iPad if you don't want to. Save the money and use paper charts. These are indeed nice things but no one is being forced to pay for them and use them if they don't want to. Would it be nice to have these things paid for by the company? Absolutely, but I can understand why they don't.
Wait, so at Mesa you can choose to use paper charts or buy an iPad?
Old 06-20-2015 | 01:33 PM
  #8913  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
Thumbs down

Originally Posted by CBreezy
Wait, so at Mesa you can choose to use paper charts or buy an iPad?

All new hires don't have that choice anymore ...
Old 06-20-2015 | 01:45 PM
  #8914  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 12,523
Likes: 1,113
Default

Originally Posted by mjpilot
All new hires don't have that choice anymore ...
So ScottyDo was wrong in that you aren't being forced to buy an ipad.
Old 06-20-2015 | 02:04 PM
  #8915  
prior121's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,539
Likes: 0
From: 175 Left
Default

Originally Posted by CBreezy
So ScottyDo was wrong in that you aren't being forced to buy an ipad.
But you do have a CHOICE of working at Mesa.....
Old 06-20-2015 | 03:24 PM
  #8916  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 740
Likes: 0
Default

We've been told by our ALPA finance guys to not expect "dramatically increased pay rates" because Mesa does not have the money. The longer we wait, the more money we lose by holding out for an impossible contract. Those are the sad facts. So, we push for what we can get, which will be increased rates, but certainly not industry leading.
ALPA finance guys are pretty good at finding hidden money. They aren't hiding money, they don't have it.
Old 06-20-2015 | 03:30 PM
  #8917  
ScottyDo's Avatar
Chief Engineer
 
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: CRJ FO
Default

Originally Posted by CBreezy
So ScottyDo was wrong in that you aren't being forced to buy an ipad.
You are right, sorry guys I thought there was still a choice on that one.
Old 06-20-2015 | 04:45 PM
  #8918  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 828
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by 20sx
We've been told by our ALPA finance guys to not expect "dramatically increased pay rates" because Mesa does not have the money. The longer we wait, the more money we lose by holding out for an impossible contract. Those are the sad facts. So, we push for what we can get, which will be increased rates, but certainly not industry leading.
ALPA finance guys are pretty good at finding hidden money. They aren't hiding money, they don't have it.
How about guys quit working for those crappy rates and force Mesa to quit bidding for flying at a near loss. This is totally on Mesa pilots.
Old 06-20-2015 | 05:09 PM
  #8919  
EuroMexPilot's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
From: Bent Over
Default

Originally Posted by Snuffaluffagus
You are management's wet dream
OMG... No joke. Here I was thinking "they actually charge the pilots for KCM??? I've never heard such ridiculousness"
And then this guy comes in defending them.

If only they could clone him a few thousand times, they could continue to underbid everyone else for Ejet contracts.
Old 06-20-2015 | 05:21 PM
  #8920  
sippin' dat koolaid
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 982
Likes: 0
From: gear slinger
Default

Originally Posted by 20sx
They aren't hiding money, they don't have it.
Then maybe it's time for all of us to hang our hats for awhile. This isn't a GD charity and we're not doing this job out of the goodness of our hearts.

They will either find the money for it or go under. And if it's the latter, then maybe MAG shouldn't be in business if they cannot afford to pay their people industry average. It wouldn't exactly break my heart and I'm on the verge of upgrading.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
nwa757
Regional
31
07-31-2018 04:58 PM
AirbornPegasus
Regional
14
04-08-2009 07:17 PM
Spanky189
Regional
10
05-16-2008 09:38 AM
familyguy
Regional
49
04-11-2008 12:03 AM
LOW FUEL
Regional
104
08-17-2007 04:41 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices