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Old 07-06-2015 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
The way it was explained to me by one of the MEC officers is that the TA was annotated with the term "base pay" when it was signed and ratified but that term never made it into the final product that was printed after ratification. It was on the basis that the parties signed the TA that the arbitrator found that "base pay" was what everyone had agreed to.
I heard the same. Thusly it was an ALPA mistake that they didn't catch it.
Old 07-08-2015 | 12:46 PM
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I swear our union is *king worthless. Having worked and other regionals I can say from expirence that mag alpa is the most spineless lazy union I have seen yet. Unless your a CA they just don't give a dam.
Old 07-08-2015 | 12:48 PM
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And while I'm at it. Screw back the pac. I want forign carriers to invade the U.S. That means jobs for us and an end to these ****ty pay rates
Old 07-08-2015 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
I swear our union is *king worthless. Having worked and other regionals I can say from expirence that mag alpa is the most spineless lazy union I have seen yet. Unless your a CA they just don't give a dam.
You clearly have never been a teamster.....
Old 07-08-2015 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
I swear our union is *king worthless. Having worked and other regionals I can say from expirence that mag alpa is the most spineless lazy union I have seen yet. Unless your a CA they just don't give a dam.
They're more pragmatic than my previous ALPA carrier. Believe me you don't want a militant union run solely by senior lifer Captains that fights the company over every little thing and never compromises on anything.

MAG ALPA seems to pick their battles, rather than going on quixotic quests to make this place a career destination and/or sink the entire airline.

For example, it seems like they're compromising with the company on payrates in contract negotiations, but holding the line on the FOQA gatekeeper issue. They aren't going to push for payrates that would put the company out of business, but they are fighting the company on ludicrous stuff like company control of FOQA.
Old 07-08-2015 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
They're more pragmatic than my previous ALPA carrier. Believe me you don't want a militant union run solely by senior lifer Captains that fights the company over every little thing and never compromises on anything.

MAG ALPA seems to pick their battles, rather than going on quixotic quests to make this place a career destination and/or sink the entire airline.

For example, it seems like they're compromising with the company on payrates in contract negotiations, but holding the line on the FOQA gatekeeper issue. They aren't going to push for payrates that would put the company out of business, but they are fighting the company on ludicrous stuff like company control of FOQA.
Hey, let the lifers play they're little games so they can pretend that they are at a big boy airline!
Old 07-08-2015 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
You clearly have never been a teamster.....
Actually I have
Old 07-08-2015 | 10:36 PM
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Anybody know if the new deal will include real cancellation pay, not just line guarantee?
Old 07-09-2015 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Hey, let the lifers play they're little games so they can pretend that they are at a big boy airline!
Perhaps their is a small contingent of deluded lifers that want to pretend they're at a 'big-boy' airline, but mostly lifers at Mesa are just trying to make a living, doing the best they can with what they have. Well I mean the cool dudes anyway. I'll accept your classification for the 'a' holes even they don't really belong there.
Old 07-10-2015 | 09:23 AM
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Hey do we get a discount at luggage works? If so how much
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