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Old 12-02-2015 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
This is pretty much what I'm seeing--the only FOs planning on sticking around are:



1) People close to upgrade, and/or



2) People who live in Houston



The primary reason for leaving that I'm hearing from new hires isn't even pay--they want those flow agreements at places like Envoy/PDT. I can't blame them--that's built-in progression and job security as AA retirements skyrocket in the next 10-15 years.

Didn't a Mesa captain leave for a regional with flow?



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Old 12-02-2015 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
Didn't a Mesa captain leave for a regional with flow?



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Yep, the last interview of his career, or so he says.
Old 12-02-2015 | 09:08 PM
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Except for the last FO who I just flew with(fresh off IOE) every single one of the previous 4 were leaving and already had a job lined up, from corporate to charter, to other regionals. Even the guy off IOE was talking about going to a Charter op in a few months.
Old 12-03-2015 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyler02
And about that amount have resigned in the last 6-7 weeks and attrition is picking up. There are 2 sides to this equation. For successful growth, hiring (and getting people through training successfully) has to outpace attrition.



A Mesa Capt. just told me that virtually every FO he flies with is putting apps out for a lateral move.

I'm such a trend-setter. Lol!
Old 12-03-2015 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwing
I'm such a trend-setter. Lol!
Only difference is; well, they went to airlines with a flow, you didn't.
Old 12-03-2015 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Only difference is; well, they went to airlines with a flow, you didn't.
Nah man he's at mainline
Old 12-03-2015 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Nah man he's at mainline
All that and he coulda been at "MesaMainline" as a captain in a couple months or less.

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Old 12-03-2015 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
Didn't a Mesa captain leave for a regional with flow?
Wasn't that the guy who clipped the wingtip in the ramp?
Old 12-03-2015 | 09:20 AM
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They would be better off putting the money from the referral program into rentention bonuses.
Old 12-03-2015 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 121again
They would be better off putting the money from the referral program into rentention bonuses.
Yes. This.

An already trained Line FO is more valuable than a new hire that still has to go through training, and may or may not make it through.

How Mesa management doesn't see this, is beyond me. Anyone, with or without business experience, can see this. There is about to be a grand exodus if they don't do something fast. And no amount of hiring is going to be able to keep up.
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