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12-03-2015 | 06:31 PM
#2751
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From: CRJ FO
How are they shrinking with people piling in the door for an actually decent wage? We will have to see where things go and if mainline will let them fail or up the percentage of the money they receive from revenue flights. I would rather be at a company going down because it pays its pilots what it should versus one that goes down because it pays them too little and cant get bodies in the door.
12-03-2015 | 06:33 PM
#2752
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Are you kidding me? You're a joke! You knew what the pay was when you signed up. Nothing was hidden from you. Grow a pair of balls and stick it out or just quit. Your constant whining has become quite boring.
12-03-2015 | 06:44 PM
#2753
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From: CRJ FO
I will say this in his defense. Yes people know what they signed up for but for most guys (with the exception of those in class right now), Mesa's pay wasn't that far behind everyone else back then. But things have changed and now Mesa is extremely far behind.
12-03-2015 | 07:25 PM
#2754
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How are they shrinking with people piling in the door for an actually decent wage? We will have to see where things go and if mainline will let them fail or up the percentage of the money they receive from revenue flights. I would rather be at a company going down because it pays its pilots what it should versus one that goes down because it pays them too little and cant get bodies in the door.
[I]By Edward Russell
Republic Airways has reached a tentative agreement with its mainline partners to cancel commitments for 24 Embraer 175 aircraft, says chief executive Bryan Bedford.
The move is the result of protracted labour negotiations with the Indianapolis-based regional carrier’s pilots, which came to a head in July when the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT) filed suit against the carrier. Since then, it has faced a net deficit of about 40 pilots per month as far more cockpit crewmembers left the airline than could be recruited.
“We’re in a position where our franchise has been badly damaged and, despite all of our best efforts, it won’t be fully healed quickly,” says Bedford during an earnings call today. “ expect the future size of our operation will be smaller than where we are today.”
Pilots at Republic ratified a new three-year contract in October, however, staffing levels are not expected to return to normal for some months.
Republic had outstanding orders for 55 E175s at the end of September, including six for American Airlines with deliveries through the first quarter of 2016 and 49 for United Airlines with deliveries through the third quarter of 2017.
Bedford and other executives say the most acute impact from the pilot deficit will be felt in the fourth quarter and first quarter of 2016 but decline to provide further details on the commitments.
Five of the E175s are likely the aircraft that United said in October that it would shift to Mesa Airlines from an unnamed partner.
American and United should find it easy to place the remaining 19 E175s with other regional operators, including E-Jet operators Compass Airlines, Mesa and SkyWest Airlines.
In addition to the E175 cancellations, Republic is also speeding up the removal of its Bombardier Q400 fleet by about six months and will make temporary E-Jet flying reductions with two of its partner carriers through first quarter of 2016, says Bedford.
Further fleet and schedule changes may be necessary, he adds.
“Growth is not going to be our focus going into 2016,” says Bedford.
12-03-2015 | 07:49 PM
#2755
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From: CRJ FO
An excerpt from one of the company emails we received recently:
[I]By Edward Russell
Republic Airways has reached a tentative agreement with its mainline partners to cancel commitments for 24 Embraer 175 aircraft, says chief executive Bryan Bedford.
The move is the result of protracted labour negotiations with the Indianapolis-based regional carrier’s pilots, which came to a head in July when the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT) filed suit against the carrier. Since then, it has faced a net deficit of about 40 pilots per month as far more cockpit crewmembers left the airline than could be recruited.
“We’re in a position where our franchise has been badly damaged and, despite all of our best efforts, it won’t be fully healed quickly,” says Bedford during an earnings call today. “ expect the future size of our operation will be smaller than where we are today.”
Pilots at Republic ratified a new three-year contract in October, however, staffing levels are not expected to return to normal for some months.
Republic had outstanding orders for 55 E175s at the end of September, including six for American Airlines with deliveries through the first quarter of 2016 and 49 for United Airlines with deliveries through the third quarter of 2017.
Bedford and other executives say the most acute impact from the pilot deficit will be felt in the fourth quarter and first quarter of 2016 but decline to provide further details on the commitments.
Five of the E175s are likely the aircraft that United said in October that it would shift to Mesa Airlines from an unnamed partner.
American and United should find it easy to place the remaining 19 E175s with other regional operators, including E-Jet operators Compass Airlines, Mesa and SkyWest Airlines.
In addition to the E175 cancellations, Republic is also speeding up the removal of its Bombardier Q400 fleet by about six months and will make temporary E-Jet flying reductions with two of its partner carriers through first quarter of 2016, says Bedford.
Further fleet and schedule changes may be necessary, he adds.
“Growth is not going to be our focus going into 2016,” says Bedford.
[I]By Edward Russell
Republic Airways has reached a tentative agreement with its mainline partners to cancel commitments for 24 Embraer 175 aircraft, says chief executive Bryan Bedford.
The move is the result of protracted labour negotiations with the Indianapolis-based regional carrier’s pilots, which came to a head in July when the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT) filed suit against the carrier. Since then, it has faced a net deficit of about 40 pilots per month as far more cockpit crewmembers left the airline than could be recruited.
“We’re in a position where our franchise has been badly damaged and, despite all of our best efforts, it won’t be fully healed quickly,” says Bedford during an earnings call today. “ expect the future size of our operation will be smaller than where we are today.”
Pilots at Republic ratified a new three-year contract in October, however, staffing levels are not expected to return to normal for some months.
Republic had outstanding orders for 55 E175s at the end of September, including six for American Airlines with deliveries through the first quarter of 2016 and 49 for United Airlines with deliveries through the third quarter of 2017.
Bedford and other executives say the most acute impact from the pilot deficit will be felt in the fourth quarter and first quarter of 2016 but decline to provide further details on the commitments.
Five of the E175s are likely the aircraft that United said in October that it would shift to Mesa Airlines from an unnamed partner.
American and United should find it easy to place the remaining 19 E175s with other regional operators, including E-Jet operators Compass Airlines, Mesa and SkyWest Airlines.
In addition to the E175 cancellations, Republic is also speeding up the removal of its Bombardier Q400 fleet by about six months and will make temporary E-Jet flying reductions with two of its partner carriers through first quarter of 2016, says Bedford.
Further fleet and schedule changes may be necessary, he adds.
“Growth is not going to be our focus going into 2016,” says Bedford.
12-03-2015 | 08:11 PM
#2756
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*except those that chase down FA's and watch porn in class
12-03-2015 | 08:12 PM
#2757
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While I def agree our pay/contract sucks, you guys who started your 121 careers here have no idea how moralistic and punitive the management culture is at almost every other regional in the US.
There's a reason people from other regionals come here and stay for a bit--and it isn't just the upgrade time.
Not saying we'll survive going forward with our current contract and no flow/preferential hiring, but the previous/present HR/management culture have kept a lot of people like myself here for a bit. I hope that doesn't change anytime soon.
12-03-2015 | 08:15 PM
#2758
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Reputations are a terrible thing to overcome. People still think that Mesa has you sleep on the airplane, and crew track tries to cancel your wedding plans. Truth be told, all of us who work at Mesa for the past few years have found that the company leaves you alone and makes for a very chill environment. Everyone who has gone through our training department has commented how warm and inviting it is, and how no one is out to get anyone. Really, truth be told, Mesa is not horrible to us, just the compensation and benefits are a disgrace compared to the competition today. Yes, that's one of the most important things, however, we should not forget the good things we have going for us, and how much worse things could be if we didn't!
12-03-2015 | 08:51 PM
#2759
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From: CRJ FO
At a minimum, 25%+ pilots on the Mesa seniority list would have been terminated from Republic by now for stupid things like going over 4 sick calls in a year, no-showing on reserve, non-revving home after calling in sick, etc..
While I def agree our pay/contract sucks, you guys who started your 121 careers here have no idea how moralistic and punitive the management culture is at almost every other regional in the US.
There's a reason people from other regionals come here and stay for a bit--and it isn't just the upgrade time.
Not saying we'll survive going forward with our current contract and no flow/preferential hiring, but the previous/present HR/management culture have kept a lot of people like myself here for a bit. I hope that doesn't change anytime soon.
While I def agree our pay/contract sucks, you guys who started your 121 careers here have no idea how moralistic and punitive the management culture is at almost every other regional in the US.
There's a reason people from other regionals come here and stay for a bit--and it isn't just the upgrade time.
Not saying we'll survive going forward with our current contract and no flow/preferential hiring, but the previous/present HR/management culture have kept a lot of people like myself here for a bit. I hope that doesn't change anytime soon.
12-03-2015 | 09:04 PM
#2760
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From: CRJ 900
I hope your not throwing me into that boat with some of the loosers we do hire ,who do abuse the system and are just plain sh*t pilots. It seems like almost half of my new hire class had IOE go well past 100 hours which is just sad. I for one was done with IOE at 20 hours and have never missed a single day of work, not too bad for my first 121 gig? But that's the environment we are in, we take who we can get and apparently hire people over e-mail now. This is a great place just some more cash in the pocket would be nice and not having some really terrible pilots would be nice as well, but that is the training departments problem. Which I imagine they are a little more stringent now that airplanes are getting bent now and again.
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