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02-15-2016, 11:04 AM
#4411
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
Last question. It says you guys are ALPA. How is it that they can't negotiate something more in line with other contract carriers for more reasonable premiums? ASA probably has the largest employee contribution and that is 30%.
02-15-2016, 11:09 AM
#4412
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
I've heard this many times and it confuses me. Since Mesa meets the requirements of offering an "affordable" plan, none of us qualify for the tax credit or savings. As a result you have to pay full price for the plans. When I looked at the offerings in my home state, Mesa's plans beat them all on coverage vs price. Are full price plans a lot cheaper than Mesa's insurance in a lot of states?
Does My Employer Group Health Plan Meet Healthcare Reform's Minimum Value Requirements?
02-15-2016, 11:12 AM
#4413
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
Last question. It says you guys are ALPA. How is it that they can't negotiate something more in line with other contract carriers for more reasonable premiums? ASA probably has the largest employee contribution and that is 30%.
02-15-2016, 11:19 AM
#4414
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Originally Posted by loc n slope
Because in order to undercut competition, you can't have nice things (such as decent wages, good healthcare, and other contract goodies). If healthcare were to improve, operational costs would go up. Mesa wouldn't be able to offer their crap product at such low prices.
02-15-2016, 11:34 AM
#4415
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Originally Posted by Darant
If you dont qualify for a subsidy for the ACA, then the employee only plan is almost always going to be cheaper. It is being subsidized by Mesa which is why I said when it comes to adding family members, the company has no obligation to meet any criteria for them. Mesa can charge whatever they want for family members but as for the direct employee, Mesa must meet the "minimum value standard".
Does My Employer Group Health Plan Meet Healthcare Reform's Minimum Value Requirements?
Does My Employer Group Health Plan Meet Healthcare Reform's Minimum Value Requirements?
02-15-2016, 12:14 PM
#4416
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
I understand all that, but when I shop for family plans, Mesa's still comes out cheaper than going to obamacare, since we don't qualify for subsidies.
02-15-2016, 12:58 PM
#4417
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Originally Posted by Darant
Well that is VERY surprising. Good deal for you.
02-15-2016, 01:09 PM
#4418
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
Not really...it means I'm spending more for health insurance than most other people, and it's supposed to be reasonable around here.
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02-15-2016, 01:10 PM
#4419
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
Thanks guys. So a follow up question would be how is mesa getting so many warm bodies in class when the healthcare is so high? Are most pilots young and single? On the spouse's insurance as was suggested before? On the exchanges? To my knowledge, mesa is the only contract carrier with such high premiums.
There are ZERO obstacles to coming here presented by the company, if you want to come, come.
As for the insurance, its awful, i used to sell life and health, the low premium doesnt cover anything but doc visits and the high end is cost prohibitive. Look elsewhere for insurance.
my last paycheck was $400
Last edited by fugoid; 02-15-2016 at 01:22 PM.
02-15-2016, 01:38 PM
#4420
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Originally Posted by fugoid
The classes are full because there is no interview. Lets be honest interviews suck, you are being judged, scrutinized, tested, and humbled. My class was full of older guys, I was shocked one of them I talked too said he felt stupid being interviewed for a FO position with his credentials. I totally get it.
There are ZERO obstacles to coming here presented by the company, if you want to come, come.
As for the insurance, its awful, i used to sell life and health, the low premium doesnt cover anything but doc visits and the high end is cost prohibitive. Look elsewhere for insurance.
my last paycheck was $400
There are ZERO obstacles to coming here presented by the company, if you want to come, come.
As for the insurance, its awful, i used to sell life and health, the low premium doesnt cover anything but doc visits and the high end is cost prohibitive. Look elsewhere for insurance.
my last paycheck was $400
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