Not true.. I'm like 99% sure that if we change bases we get 3 days. If I'm wrong then I apologize....however if we actually get those 3 days when it's all said and done hahaha! Good luck

 

Remember that displacements and new hire assignments are different from just changing your standing bid.

 

Tell that to Flaps, or was it you that said along the lines, "Mesa leaves you alone, doesn't call you in to the chief pilots office for sick calls, and doesn't constantly nag you about climb profiles with acars". Of course lets not forget easily commutable bases, 700-900's, and Ejets. Hmm, thats all I can think of, besides an awesome pilot group and training department.

 

LOA 5-25 Section B.4

 

You're trying to compare today's hiring climate to that of 2-3 years ago when some of us were hired. Mesa wasn't a bad choice for those hired in 2013 to mid 2014 given the conditions AT THAT POINT IN TIME. Any eligible pilot has had the opportunity to upgrade in two years or less at a company with an all large RJ fleet, which was something to consider two years ago when oil prices were more than 2x more than they are currently.

 

Exactly..spot on

 

There's a lot of promises elsewhere that haven't come to full fruition just yet.

 

There's zero upside potential at Mesa now though (for someone without 1,000 hours prior 121 time). All of the future Captains for all of our planned or potential growth/attrition are already on property and fast-approaching their 1,000 hours 121 time necessary for upgrade.

When a person comes here today (without previous 121 experience), it's basically the same thing as when a plumber/janitor reads about some hot new growth stock in an investing magazine 3-6 months after all of the fund managers and expert investors have already bought up the cheap shares that will actually yield gains.

A total FNG w/o 121 experience might eek out a decent bump in FO seniority before the last EJet arrives, but all of our future upgrades for the next 3-5 years are already on property. My gut instinct based on a decade of experience with regional airline cycles says a noob with south of 1,000 hours 121 time is looking at a max upside potential of 30-40% in FO seniority, and then a 3-5 year wait for a left-seat.

I've been a Mesa cheerleader on here for a long time--I encouraged people to come here for a long time. The tides are turning, though, and I can't in good conscience adivse someone to come here now given the combination of money and opportunity that's on offer literally everywhere else. It worked out for me, it'll work out for the top 50-60% of our current FO list...but it's not going to work out for a brand new FO with south of 1,000 hours.

But yeah--for those of us already on property, our management culture and training department are top-notch.

 

Attrition will help the new guys, keep hearing that 15 CA's left this month, but can't confirm.

 

1. That's only after released from a training event. Either new hire and upgrade.
2. Those are not move days. Those are just guaranteed days off after training.

It use to be you would go from training straight to work with no chance to go home