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Old 02-22-2016 | 12:49 PM
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I'm hoping for dfw then iah and if any of the others I'm hoping for a flat tire on the way to class!!!
Old 02-22-2016 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatmeworry
I'm hoping for dfw then iah and if any of the others I'm hoping for a flat tire on the way to class!!!
You're not going to get DFW right off the bat.

IAH is the only EJET base for now. So if it's going to be IAH you'll know well before you're on your way to class.
Old 02-22-2016 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Slaveaway
Mesa interviewed him as he was laying in bed eating cheese curls and drinking beer.
Cheese curds, get your stereotypes right. And to Judge, ORD is another nearby option. For what it's worth.

Our classes weren't getting filled recently, and then all of the sudden, they are. If any new guys want share why you're coming now, I think a lot of us would be curious. It's an inexplicable surge in recruiting, and for a long time new hires seemed to be dwindling. Is it the referral bonus? Is the person referring you splitting it with you? No judgment, just trying to understand.

For a little context, Mesa management seems unwilling to negotiate for a new and better contract until we can't find people to hire. The theory is: once people stop applying, management will be forced to improve the contract and pay rates until people do start coming again. That's why so many guys here want to understand what's drawing people back to Mesa right now, all of the sudden.

Whatmeworry, WisJudge, fire2flyer, et al, many of us would be genuinely curious if you'd care to share why Mesa and why now.

Originally Posted by Slaveaway
Then again if he gets a free iPad it's a win.
This comment is in reference to the "free" iPads Mesa has apparently been giving to new hires, in addition to some walking-around-money bonuses. Our pilot union is in contention with the company over giving these things out to attract new pilots since the contract doesn't permit the company to do so. Again, the theory is we want the company to improve the contract for everyone to attract more pilots, not just improve things for new hires.
Old 02-22-2016 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Slaveaway
Some friends are complaining about their March schedules. Anyone know why the schedules went to crap?
Read the latest email from MAG MEC.
Old 02-22-2016 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
The theory is: once people stop applying, management will be forced to improve the contract and pay rates until people do start coming again. That's why so many guys here want to understand what's drawing people back to Mesa right now, all of the sudden.
My curiousity has zero to do with contract negotiations--it has to do with basic microeconomics.

Someone who lives in Wisconsin would have an insanely better QOL commuting 1-leg or a short drive to ORD for Skywest, or 1-leg/a short drive to DTW/MSP for Endeavor, while making insanely more money over the three year period you'll be waiting to upgrade--anywhere. Better work rules, time off, QOL, and 2-3x less time spent battling for jumpseats/being stuck in Houston in monsoon season.

Oh and at Skywest/Envoy/Endeavor, there isn't the potential of a lawsuit (union vs. company) hanging over your head about the money you're taking in as a new hire outside of the contract--that is an option on the table for our MEC and it's still uncertain how that's going to play out in the next several weeks with MEC elections coming up. I'm not going to say anything else about the new hire payments b/c my views are known to this thread, but I have spoken to several people in the union about it, and that IS an option being discussed.

Just things to ponder. Even for an "old guy" who has all the money they need and just wants to fly a 175 for a bit.

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Old 02-22-2016 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Slaveaway
Some friends are complaining about their March schedules. Anyone know why the schedules went to crap?
Well without know what they are complaining about. Can't answer. Have they talked to magpbs? My experience is most of the time it's bad bidding.
Old 02-22-2016 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
Read the latest email from MAG MEC.
Reading it, it kept the schedules from going to crap. I.e. Unstacking.
Old 02-22-2016 | 01:51 PM
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Schedules are out ...
Old 02-22-2016 | 02:22 PM
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Iah only the ERJ... Does the ERJ have pretty good training on that side of the house? Is it in house, etc? AQP for both ERJ and CRJ?
Old 02-22-2016 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatmeworry
Iah only the ERJ... Does the ERJ have pretty good training on that side of the house? Is it in house, etc? AQP for both ERJ and CRJ?
Both CRJ and EJET have good training departments. CRJ is all in-house. EJET is mostly in-house. The only contract stuff is some of our sim training is being done in STL by FlightSafety because we get free training from them for the 18 new aircraft we are buying. Having said that, the FSI instructors are good and are closely supervised by the in-house training department. Neither aircraft has AQP for initial or upgrade, but both have AQP for recurrent.
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