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#4701
#4703
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Ball Turret Gunner
Posts: 297
Is that a f*cking cougar in the right seat?!!! What the hell dad!
#4704
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Position: Ball Turret Gunner
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In all seriousness tho flaps has a good point. Some of us have trained for 121 our whole lives their are now more and more cases at this company of 28-30 year old capitans that have more expirence in the 121 world than the 45 yo sitting right seat. ( that is if their ego can fit through the door) Age does not give you expirence alone.
#4705
We're hiring guys who haven't flown in 15-20 years, who have never flown or been trained on turbine airplanes/operations, who have no formal aviation training, who have 1500 hours flying the pattern in a C150 at their local airport. Before you all rip me on this - I didn't say EVERYONE we hire falls into this category but some of the people we hire do. That should be a huge safety concern for everyone.
As for all those on here that want to fault new hires for their beefs about pay, QOL, work rules, etc ... I say look in the mirror and see where the true problem lies. How on earth do you blame somebody else who is simply looking for a job (at the same airline that you work for no less)? Do you not see the folly in that?
Here it is ... plain and simple. You know those union dues we're paying? Well, how well is THAT working for us? I can not with a sound conscience blame my own situation on a new hire. And, complaining about things on this website does not constitute a true effort to take action. If I choose to sit quietly while waiting and hoping for things to change while my union does nothing then I'm equally to blame. The new hires have no dirt on them. They didn't cause any of this.
#4706
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Ball Turret Gunner
Posts: 297
Your point is well taken as there's much truth in it. But, don't think that Mesa is alone in this. EVERY regional is doing it right now, and to no lesser degree than Mesa. That is a fact.
As for all those on here that want to fault new hires for their beefs about pay, QOL, work rules, etc ... I say look in the mirror and see where the true problem lies. How on earth do you blame somebody else who is simply looking for a job (at the same airline that you work for no less)? Do you not see the folly in that?
Here it is ... plain and simple. You know those union dues we're paying? Well, how well is THAT working for us? I can not with a sound conscience blame my own situation on a new hire. If I choose to sit quietly while waiting and hoping for things to change while my union does nothing then I'm equally to blame. The new hires have no dirt on them. They didn't cause any of this.
As for all those on here that want to fault new hires for their beefs about pay, QOL, work rules, etc ... I say look in the mirror and see where the true problem lies. How on earth do you blame somebody else who is simply looking for a job (at the same airline that you work for no less)? Do you not see the folly in that?
Here it is ... plain and simple. You know those union dues we're paying? Well, how well is THAT working for us? I can not with a sound conscience blame my own situation on a new hire. If I choose to sit quietly while waiting and hoping for things to change while my union does nothing then I'm equally to blame. The new hires have no dirt on them. They didn't cause any of this.
Just rember. We are all counting on you!
Last edited by milehighskyline; 02-24-2016 at 02:37 PM.
#4707
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 109
I keep hearing from my fo's about micro managing capts with giant egos. Sounds like we have a couple on here Everyone you fly with brings something to the table with their past experiences even if they have never flown 121. Yea he has a point about being humble because most of us upgraded between 1-2 years while at mesa. Try complaining about that infront of an eagle or expressjet fo.
#4708
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Position: Ball Turret Gunner
Posts: 297
Look guys the solution is simple. HIRE HOTTER FLIGHT ATTENDENTS and amend the contract to keep at least one in the cockpit at all times for moral and morale support. Then no one would bitc* about the pay, and we would all be flying aces. Hi hoe thunder thighs!!!!
#4710
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 503
The thing is, the hiring landscape was different from 2013-right into the beginning of 2015; Mesa was a "goldmine". I don't fault people for going to Mesa in during period. I did. But now the dynamics have changed, and you can make 50k as a first year FO. So I bailed.
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