I do. I came when the landscape was different. The quick upgrade worked. The landscape has changed and that is what I am pointing out.

People, please stop answering your phones for YV recruiters.

To be honest, I'm not sure why you guys are filling classes other than having commutable bases... My couple friends over there have told me that the quick upgrade ship has sailed.

With RAH in chapter 11, they will fill more classes now. I guess its wiser to eat a small portions

I'm not sure what that means. I just find it interesting is all...

AmericanEagle/Envoy has had trouble recruiting since bankruptcy 11/29/2011. I don't think they've been able to completely fill a class since then even with the 170 carrot, the 2.5 year upgrade and 6 year flow BS.

At the end of the day i guess you go with the company that works for you.

We keep hearing on here how the quick upgrade is over. And yet, on the very last bid we had CRJ captain upgrades going very junior. Until we see it get more senior and over a couple of bids, this is still a place for quick upgrades. That's part of the reason people are still coming here. Another reason could be quicker off reserve if going to the ejet. Reserve sucks even at good companies, so that is probably a draw to come here. But no, people don't come here for our first and second year FO pay or our almost non-existant benefits.

In the newsletter today it was barely mentioned he resigned or why
Any info on that?

Between ALPA National's feet dragging and a neutered MEC, the negotiating team has both hands tied behind their back. Maybe he didn't see the point in an uphill battle. It seems Jennifer Berns is about our only real advocate at this point; just hope she sticks with it.

I think she was the chairperson...it's not always a he