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#4791
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I keep hearing from my fo's about micro managing capts with giant egos. Sounds like we have a couple on here
Everyone you fly with brings something to the table with their past experiences even if they have never flown 121. Yea he has a point about being humble because most of us upgraded between 1-2 years while at mesa. Try complaining about that infront of an eagle or expressjet fo.
Everyone you fly with brings something to the table with their past experiences even if they have never flown 121. Yea he has a point about being humble because most of us upgraded between 1-2 years while at mesa. Try complaining about that infront of an eagle or expressjet fo.
#4792
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From: Ball Turret Gunner
Look guys the solution is simple. HIRE HOTTER FLIGHT ATTENDENTS and amend the contract to keep at least one in the cockpit at all times for moral and morale support. Then no one would bitc* about the pay, and we would all be flying aces. Hi hoe thunder thighs!!!!
#4794
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Joined: Jul 2015
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The thing is, the hiring landscape was different from 2013-right into the beginning of 2015; Mesa was a "goldmine". I don't fault people for going to Mesa in during period. I did. But now the dynamics have changed, and you can make 50k as a first year FO. So I bailed.
#4795
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From: EJet CA
You are exactly the type of patronizing "I flew GA when you were in diapers, whippersnapper" type who is literally making my life miserable on every 4-day recently.
Just reading that lengthy post to ScottyDo, I know 100% I don't want to fly with you. I don't care about your business experience and blah blah blah--sorry. Don't take it personally--I'm just trying to be upfront and honest and telling you that none of those things matter to me at all when we're trying to operate an EJet in a 121 environment safely and without getting violated.
Now, maybe if you can figure out and openly admit that NONE of your past life experience/business instincts/experience running a GA airport/flying GA have almost NO relevance to flying an EJet in 121 passenger ops--if you can do that--and literally acknowledge that whatever you did before gives you essentially zero "instincts" in the 121 grind--then maybe I'll fly with you. But I can already see that's going to be a problem with you on the line, because you can't stop talking about it on here.
I honestly don't care if you're 64 or 24--the stereotype many of us Captains are applying to "old guys" is simply a rough correlation: were you flying passenger ops in 121 for the last 25 years? No? Ok--then we've established that I have vastly more experience to you (in the context of this job/operation), and so when I tell you you're messing up/too high on GS/didn't read back the clearance right (all things that all new guys mess up)--you won't take it personally, debate it with me, or act like a butthurt child who's ego and "experience" as a guy 20 years older than me have been insulted? Can you do that for me, bud?
If we can clear up that your whole background and life story has almost nothing to do with flying an airliner safely, and if you can just stop talking about it during every leg, then maybe we'll get along and be ok--not optimstic based on past experience with "old guys."
Sorry--just venting a bit
rant over
Just reading that lengthy post to ScottyDo, I know 100% I don't want to fly with you. I don't care about your business experience and blah blah blah--sorry. Don't take it personally--I'm just trying to be upfront and honest and telling you that none of those things matter to me at all when we're trying to operate an EJet in a 121 environment safely and without getting violated.
Now, maybe if you can figure out and openly admit that NONE of your past life experience/business instincts/experience running a GA airport/flying GA have almost NO relevance to flying an EJet in 121 passenger ops--if you can do that--and literally acknowledge that whatever you did before gives you essentially zero "instincts" in the 121 grind--then maybe I'll fly with you. But I can already see that's going to be a problem with you on the line, because you can't stop talking about it on here.
I honestly don't care if you're 64 or 24--the stereotype many of us Captains are applying to "old guys" is simply a rough correlation: were you flying passenger ops in 121 for the last 25 years? No? Ok--then we've established that I have vastly more experience to you (in the context of this job/operation), and so when I tell you you're messing up/too high on GS/didn't read back the clearance right (all things that all new guys mess up)--you won't take it personally, debate it with me, or act like a butthurt child who's ego and "experience" as a guy 20 years older than me have been insulted? Can you do that for me, bud?
If we can clear up that your whole background and life story has almost nothing to do with flying an airliner safely, and if you can just stop talking about it during every leg, then maybe we'll get along and be ok--not optimstic based on past experience with "old guys."
Sorry--just venting a bit
rant over
Out of curiosity, did you come from any of those other careers that have no 'relevance'? Or were you straight to flight school followed by instructing or some other flight job that helped make you the ace you are today? Any job outside aviation?
#4796
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From: Ball Turret Gunner
Jesus. Your CRM and leadership skills sound top notch. You're probably a real peach to fly with.
Out of curiosity, did you come from any of those other careers that have no 'relevance'? Or were you straight to flight school followed by instructing or some other flight job that helped make you the ace you are today? Any job outside aviation?
Out of curiosity, did you come from any of those other careers that have no 'relevance'? Or were you straight to flight school followed by instructing or some other flight job that helped make you the ace you are today? Any job outside aviation?
Last edited by milehighskyline; 02-24-2016 at 03:20 PM.
#4797
Jesus. Your CRM and leadership skills sound top notch. You're probably a real peach to fly with.
Out of curiosity, did you come from any of those other careers that have no 'relevance'? Or were you straight to flight school followed by instructing or some other flight job that helped make you the ace you are today? Any job outside aviation?
Out of curiosity, did you come from any of those other careers that have no 'relevance'? Or were you straight to flight school followed by instructing or some other flight job that helped make you the ace you are today? Any job outside aviation?
#4798
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Joined: Nov 2014
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I am disconnected from the Ejet side, but I am sure I would have heard stories by now about flaps in the cockpit. Such stories do not exist, and I am sure even ScottyDo is fine to fly with. Hell, I've probably flown with Scotty already, and I am clueless as to who he is. Point is, don't let our behaviors on this forum give an accurate description of how we are in person. No different than imagining how some one looks based on their voice.
#4799
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Joined: Jun 2015
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Oh how I wish this board wasn't anonymous. No one would have the gall to act as they do if their real name were associated with their username. I think we'd end up with a much more professional (albeit boring) forum to read.
#4800
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From: Ball Turret Gunner
Ya but I would still come at you like a spider monkey!
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