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The senority list has been hovering around 1200 for the last few months.
Quote: I do. I came when the landscape was different. The quick upgrade worked. The landscape has changed and that is what I am pointing out.

People, please stop answering your phones for YV recruiters.
Interesting. There was a guy also using the handle of 'LT Dan' in a December 2015 new hire class.
Quote: I know what you're saying.
I've only been here for a week, do I have a voice yet?
I would be lucky if my concerns were even entertained by the union, or the company.
But, if I can take the pulse of our pilot group, and share an experience?
This feels like the place to do it.... Until I make more friends and get some clout in the company.
In the mean time?
I have at least a year to form my stay strategy, or my exit strategy.
So you picked the lowest paid company and you think you're going to make a difference? Oh dear.
So you've been here 2 weeks and you've already decided your not getting enough information handed to you? Let's start with you still have t even processed through national to get on the email chains.

And with your wonderful 2 weeks of experience you've already decided that you know everything about what alpa is and isn't doing to make your life better.

Must be super awesome to be that smart and so well versed in airline operations and the railway labor act after 2 weeks here.


Quote: Feb 18th class here.
We got our wine and dine from ALPA the other day and I noticed something odd.
I asked the same question 3 different ways and got the same answer.
Is it me, or do they love to hear themselves talk?
We get long winded explainations, but never an answer.
The question was:
Yes, we chose Mesa knowing the conditions, but what is ALPA doing to start getting Mesa to meet the trend that other regionals are offering?
I'm learning fairly quickly, that ALPA here does not care enough to effect change.
He was more than happy to blame the company, but the contract has been amendable sine 2010(?), I think.
I don't see any real information being disseminated out to us from the union or the company.

Just sharing an experience with everyone!
So why not run for the mec chair? You seem to know the answers, how exactly is the union suppose to magically make all your dreams come true and make jo roll over and admit his last 30+ years of business strategy is bad?

Quote: What you failed to understand is the question I asked.
That's the same gibberish answer we always get.
A company will never give more than it has to, is also the backside of that statement.
There is a reason for a union and it doesn't appear that ours is very strong.
The answer you just gave me is a standard brain washed - supply and demand rote response.
What is your Union doing for you to get you a fair trade for your time and effort.
It's not hard to realize that your Union sucks when the contract is out of date and there's no public show of them taking a stand.
Hell, even the union guy stood up in front of new hires and said he's going to a new company.
Don't blame the company for unfair treatment!
It's our responsibility to get our union working for us.
Quote: So why not run for the mec chair? You seem to know the answers, how exactly is the union suppose to magically make all your dreams come true and make jo roll over and admit his last 30+ years of business strategy is bad?
Probies can't run for MEC chair I don't think.
Quote: Probies can't run for MEC chair I don't think.
Exactly. Even if he could more than likely wouldn't. Just like everyone else on here complaining about change but unwilling to step up. You don't want AH In there again, who's your candidate because if you ask the reps to date there's only one person running that they know about.
Quote: You may want to take a toastmasters class. You're gonna need it. A lot of immature ideologies here unfortunately.
Just stop. Your blue-sky kumbaya attitude is simply out of blind ignorance. JO has said to many pilots' faces that the reason why he pays so low is because that is what the market dictates. Supply vs. demand. As long as wide eyed new hires fill classes, there is no economic reason to raise pay.

You presumably haven't even finished training, but you already think you're of good authority to decide who "gets it"? You should slow down on spouting your garbage before you know a thing or two about what you're talking about.

To those that spout about how "quick upgrades are alive": how many people actually upgraded in less than a year? 10? 30? I don't study standing bid awards, but it's not enough to sell that to a friend to come here. As others have said, if you were hired in 2013-14 and were able to make short work of the embaressing FO pay scale, great. However, if you come here because it's the only place you could get hired and don't care about the pay... You're a part of the problem, and you're lying to yourself.

The company has been completely unwilling to provide us with improvements in pay, hotels, healthcare, NONREV BENEFITS, interviews/flows or anything else for that matter. Anyone that signs up for a class date today is either 1. A mid-life crisis type 2. Can't get hired elsewhere or 3. Has either done no research, or doesn't value them self as a professional pilot
Quote: Just stop. Your blue-sky kumbaya attitude is simply out of blind ignorance. JO has said to many pilots' faces that the reason why he pays so low is because that is what the market dictates. Supply vs. demand. As long as wide eyed new hires fill classes, there is no economic reason to raise pay.

You presumably haven't even finished training, but you already think you're of good authority to decide who "gets it"? You should slow down on spouting your garbage before you know a thing or two about what you're talking about.

To those that spout about how "quick upgrades are alive": how many people actually upgraded in less than a year? 10? 30? I don't study standing bid awards, but it's not enough to sell that to a friend to come here. As others have said, if you were hired in 2013-14 and were able to make short work of the embaressing FO pay scale, great. However, if you come here because it's the only place you could get hired and don't care about the pay... You're a part of the problem, and you're lying to yourself.

The company has been completely unwilling to provide us with improvements in pay, hotels, healthcare, NONREV BENEFITS, interviews/flows or anything else for that matter. Anyone that signs up for a class date today is either 1. A mid-life crisis type 2. Can't get hired elsewhere or 3. Has either done no research, or doesn't value them self as a professional pilot
If they want to live on a base that Mesa is stationed or already have their 1000 121 time, it's a better place to be than quite a few regionals. If they just wanted a new type, some experience, and not have to jump through a lot of hoops, and bail after 3 months to their corporate gig, its a good place to be.
All the pilots on property are responsible for Mesa's compensation. We all choose to continue to work here. Pointing your finger at each other for it is stupid. The senior pilots are no better than the new hires in this regard. The only pilots who are doing something about it are the ones leaving.
Quote: Just stop. Your blue-sky kumbaya attitude is simply out of blind ignorance. JO has said to many pilots' faces that the reason why he pays so low is because that is what the market dictates. Supply vs. demand. As long as wide eyed new hires fill classes, there is no economic reason to raise pay.

You presumably haven't even finished training, but you already think you're of good authority to decide who "gets it"? You should slow down on spouting your garbage before you know a thing or two about what you're talking about.

To those that spout about how "quick upgrades are alive": how many people actually upgraded in less than a year? 10? 30? I don't study standing bid awards, but it's not enough to sell that to a friend to come here. As others have said, if you were hired in 2013-14 and were able to make short work of the embaressing FO pay scale, great. However, if you come here because it's the only place you could get hired and don't care about the pay... You're a part of the problem, and you're lying to yourself.

The company has been completely unwilling to provide us with improvements in pay, hotels, healthcare, NONREV BENEFITS, interviews/flows or anything else for that matter. Anyone that signs up for a class date today is either 1. A mid-life crisis type 2. Can't get hired elsewhere or 3. Has either done no research, or doesn't value them self as a professional pilot
This!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^*
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