A Military Poser in the ALPA Magazine?
03-29-2010, 11:47 PM
#181
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: autopilot abuser
Posts: 166
I almoast don't know what to say about his conduct.
I read through half of that long post of jokes and started to feel sorry for the guy. I think it is safe to say he just burned every single bridge in the entire industry. The guy is obviously a compulsive liar. Going before those people with all of their credentials and could not hold his urge to lie. And for what? To impress them. He already belonged to the club. Like my friend used to tell his little brother " you ain't gotta lie to kick it ". His reputation is so far ruined not even he can fathom the consequences. That now leads to him possibly being a pathological liar. I hope not. The boy does not belong in the cockpit at all IMO. He needs to be pulled from the line ASAP. I am actually disturbed that this man is flying paying passengers around our NAS with a serious charactar flaw.
I'll bet if you can contact his class mates from the pilot-mill he attended or even talk to his instructor/s. You would probably get a response such as "that does'nt surprise me" or "that figures, that guy was full of it". People with problems like this have always had the problem. It just does'nt pop up overnight. Using the bull**** lines to pick up chick at a bar, fine. If you want to be known as a liar in the end, fine. Walking through life and using them everwhere is a serious misconception of reality. This man should resign from AE if he was smart. It could save time, money and unwanted media coverage.
My .02
I read through half of that long post of jokes and started to feel sorry for the guy. I think it is safe to say he just burned every single bridge in the entire industry. The guy is obviously a compulsive liar. Going before those people with all of their credentials and could not hold his urge to lie. And for what? To impress them. He already belonged to the club. Like my friend used to tell his little brother " you ain't gotta lie to kick it ". His reputation is so far ruined not even he can fathom the consequences. That now leads to him possibly being a pathological liar. I hope not. The boy does not belong in the cockpit at all IMO. He needs to be pulled from the line ASAP. I am actually disturbed that this man is flying paying passengers around our NAS with a serious charactar flaw.
I'll bet if you can contact his class mates from the pilot-mill he attended or even talk to his instructor/s. You would probably get a response such as "that does'nt surprise me" or "that figures, that guy was full of it". People with problems like this have always had the problem. It just does'nt pop up overnight. Using the bull**** lines to pick up chick at a bar, fine. If you want to be known as a liar in the end, fine. Walking through life and using them everwhere is a serious misconception of reality. This man should resign from AE if he was smart. It could save time, money and unwanted media coverage.
My .02
03-30-2010, 12:02 AM
#182
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: autopilot abuser
Posts: 166
Originally Posted by Boomer
Like that lady with her "taxi delay crusade" - she thinks she won the battle because now the plane must return to the gate at 2:59.
The flying public has yet to fully taste that sweet victory. Thanks lady.
The flying public has yet to fully taste that sweet victory. Thanks lady.
03-30-2010, 04:08 AM
#183
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,247
Return to gate prior to 3(?) hr delay or face a $27,000 fine per passenger.
So, taxiways are congested, major delays, it's 2 hrs after push....time to start heading back to the gate?
So, taxiways are congested, major delays, it's 2 hrs after push....time to start heading back to the gate?
03-30-2010, 04:50 AM
#184
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: What day is it?
Posts: 963
So where are Seggy and ATN? They had no problem trashing another "poseur" with not 1/10th of what this tool did, but they're strangely silent here...
Maybe because John Sluys and Prater's buddies are in this up to their necks?
This is a disgrace. If Prater had an integrity, he'd resign.
Maybe because John Sluys and Prater's buddies are in this up to their necks?
This is a disgrace. If Prater had an integrity, he'd resign.
03-30-2010, 05:18 AM
#185
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,409
Originally Posted by Grumble
I was thinking more along the lines of squashing the loose hiring standards at some of the operators, and enforcing the "moral character" standard of the ATP.
03-30-2010, 05:22 AM
#186
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Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 3
Originally Posted by vagabond
Mom Note:
I have a suggestion to make. Nearly 22,000 views and about 180 replies later, I think we've all gotten our jollies at Tim's expense, and I believe it's time for us to sit back and reflect on ourselves, our behavior, our morals, our character. I understand the anger and disappointment we all feel at seeing something this pathetic,
I have a suggestion to make. Nearly 22,000 views and about 180 replies later, I think we've all gotten our jollies at Tim's expense, and I believe it's time for us to sit back and reflect on ourselves, our behavior, our morals, our character. I understand the anger and disappointment we all feel at seeing something this pathetic,
but remember that Tim was merely part of the problem. The reporter and ALPA National share some of the blame.
At a time when the profession has taken a beating, I think we should work to make it better instead of rejoicing at someone's self-made downfall. Tim is not the only one bound by the Code of Ethics.
There but for the grace of God, go I.
:st:
03-30-2010, 06:03 AM
#187
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Joined APC: Apr 2005
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 693
The requirement to "be of good moral character" is for the ATP. According to the FAA database, TM only has a Commercial so he's okay on this point ;-)
Certificates
1 of 1
DOI: 3/2/2008
Certificate: COMMERCIAL PILOT
Rating(s):
COMMERCIAL PILOT
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
Type Ratings
C/CL-65 C/EMB-145 C/SF-340
Limits
ENGLISH PROFICIENT.
THIS CERTIFICATE IS SUBJECT TO PILOT-IN-COMMAND LIMITATION FOR CL-65 .
SF-340 EMB-145 SIC PRIVILEGES ONLY.
SF-340 EMB-145 CIRC. APCH. - VMC ONLY.
Certificates
1 of 1
DOI: 3/2/2008
Certificate: COMMERCIAL PILOT
Rating(s):
COMMERCIAL PILOT
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
Type Ratings
C/CL-65 C/EMB-145 C/SF-340
Limits
ENGLISH PROFICIENT.
THIS CERTIFICATE IS SUBJECT TO PILOT-IN-COMMAND LIMITATION FOR CL-65 .
SF-340 EMB-145 SIC PRIVILEGES ONLY.
SF-340 EMB-145 CIRC. APCH. - VMC ONLY.
03-30-2010, 06:56 AM
#188
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: The Beginnings
Posts: 1,317
Originally Posted by AAflyer
Holy Cow,
The story has been removed off of the pdf portal.. Page 22 has vanished.
AA
The story has been removed off of the pdf portal.. Page 22 has vanished.
AA
GUFFAW!
It's just like a real "news" publication. Inconvenient facts and stories flushed down the memory hole.
Seriously, this whole thing is hilarious. This is the first issue of the ALPA "rah-rah" rag that anyone has wanted to read in decades, and they delete the only story of interest? No subtlety, either. Couldn't someone have replaced original "page 22" with an ALPA-PAC money solicitation add or something?
(Note: not anti-ALPA, but that glossy, boring, landfill packing magazine needs to go. It's an overpriced anachronism. Emails, websites, twitter, et al can more than take up the slack, no?)
03-30-2010, 07:03 AM
#189
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: The Beginnings
Posts: 1,317
Originally Posted by rickair7777
I'd love to hear how his local alpa reps are going to spin all of this at his company termination hearing.
If alpa national retracts the story or makes any kind of apology that is not going to help his case...
While alpa may try to sweep this under the rug, I don't think AMR will be so forgiving...not really in their nature.
I wonder if alpa kicks him out, do they still have a duty to represent him during his termination? I suspect they do.
If alpa national retracts the story or makes any kind of apology that is not going to help his case...
While alpa may try to sweep this under the rug, I don't think AMR will be so forgiving...not really in their nature.
I wonder if alpa kicks him out, do they still have a duty to represent him during his termination? I suspect they do.
Did he lie to the company, or did he just lie to some poor excuse of a reporter for a union trade magazine? Lying to a reporter isn't a crime, is it?
I'm no lawyer, but if he was straight with the company for his interview and background check, I think his company would have a hard time firing him for spinning tales on his own time. Heck, they'll probably give him a medal for making ALPA look stupid in a very public way.
If this is the case, his union reps better defend him to the nth degree, or they'll get their butts sued off.
Of course, no one with any sense of shame would ever be able to show up for work again after this sort of thing was made public. Sheesh.
03-30-2010, 07:08 AM
#190
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Joined APC: May 2007
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 1,530
Originally Posted by rickair7777
I'm pretty sure that is only enforced with regards to a criminal record, I don't think the FAA has the legal footing to make "moral" judgments on a person's behavior unless a criminal court has already officially stamped the person with a certified scarlet A.
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