Originally Posted by Buschpilot92

Pilots surviving off our tax dollars, going out of their way to tell us their job is better is a bit comical

Originally Posted by MinRest

I would argue that previously furloughed NJA pilots claiming that their job is somehow more secure is even more comical.

Originally Posted by MinRest

Government life support, and now they are all in the black, resuming classes and hiring more than NJA will this year. #irony

Originally Posted by MinRest

I fly the Bus, haven’t worked since March of 2020, I’m just now on year 5 pay and my W2 was very comparable to my 2015 NJA hire friends that are still there. Had I flown I would have made almost 100k more. Maybe 80k but somewhere in that neighborhood. DC 401k not included. We have FOs here making what PICs at NJA make, easily.

I’ve been given 8 positive space tickets a year, since I’ve started, and I have a Hyatt credit card so I never pay for a hotel room or airline flight for that matter.

Home basing is big, but don’t pretend you don’t commute. I don’t have to take a 3 leg all day trip to get to my plane. I did that from SFO regularly to get to the Phenom at NJA.

Even if I had to commute, I would work less days and make considerably more money than had I stayed at NJA. That’s my situation, and I know everyone has their own unique situation. Glad stuff has improved there but I don’t miss it one bit and even with the changes, it’s not enough to get me to miss it.

Comparing pay is a bit moot. NJA has gotten more dynamic with its pay, and airline pay is dynamic so it’s a very hard comparison, hell it is next to impossible.

Originally Posted by MinRest

I am not angry at all lol. The reference was more directed to FlyFaclons, but NJA pilots in general like to sit on this throne claiming ultimate job security when NJA had a massive furlough not too long ago.

Surviving the pandemic without government aid is great , and my hat is off to NJA, they turned it round and operate much more safely. But the airlines all have loans to be paid back, and will pay them back. Security is a relative metric. My airline had one of the, if not the biggest warchest, of any airline. We didn't furlough, but we did take gov aid that we will pay back. Is my airline any less secure than NJA? The reality is, Birkshire Hathway owning NJA means that it is very hard to decipher the PNL to know just how well or not NJA is doing financially. There is a lot less transparency there, which has always made negotiations that much more difficult. Taking government money doesn't necessarily indicate how close or far from furlough a given company was.

Originally Posted by Das Auto

Ok, I'll take the bait.

How sad does your life have to be for you to "like" your own posts as an alter ego on a message board?

Dude, GTFU!

Originally Posted by MWilliams

My understanding is that calls for interviews have begun. However I have not been able to confim this from somebody that has recieved a call. If you are in the line be ready.