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Old 09-04-2017 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pugpilot

From 2001 - 2006 it was a great place to go. Now it is a way to get out of a scary 135 or 24/7 91 job until you can get a job at a decent regional.

This sucks.
It was only great place to go during that time because they were the only ones hiring. It was refuge for furloughed airline pilots and NetJets was already in desperation mode trying to hire every warm body they could, that’s why hundreds of pilots were upgraded to captain during their new hire indoc or shortly after. When the airlines look good NetJets has never come close.

I guarantee you that if upgrades were at 15 years back then, none of the cheerleaders would have stuck around.
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Old 09-05-2017 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Boss Hoggin
Happy Labor Day!
In keeping with our mission to enhance our Owners experience we recognize that it all begins with hiring the right individuals; those who embody our service philosophy. From our CEO’s perspective, The NetJets Pilot is one of the most important roles in the organization when it comes to dealing directly with and understanding the company through the eyes of the Owner.

When you interviewed onsite, the EVP, Flight Operations, Alan Bobo was very willing but not able to meet with you. He would like to take that opportunity now and asked our team to schedule a 30 minute Skype meeting for him and our EVP Human Resources, Mindy Drummond. We think this is a great opportunity for you to ask questions and understand the commitment we have to bringing on the best to enhance the life of each of our Owners, one exceptional travel experience at a time.

Please respond to this email with your Skype Name, Email Address associated with Skype, and best availability on the following dates (afternoon times):
9/19 & 9/20; 10/12 & 10/24; 11/2.

Have a great Holiday Weekend and please be safe!

Sincerely,

The Talent Acquisition Team



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This has to be one of the dumbest moves that management could pull on people that are in the pool. Make everyone take time out of their day AGAIN so Alan can feel important. Good on folks that told him to suck it.
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Old 09-05-2017 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by F16Driver
This has to be one of the dumbest moves that management could pull on people that are in the pool. Make everyone take time out of their day AGAIN so Alan can feel important. Good on folks that told him to suck it.


Yes this is embarrassing. I hope they all declined the offer. Even my wife is on board for me going to a regional with a flow agreement. NJA works for some but I'm not so sure about me anymore


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Old 09-05-2017 | 10:52 AM
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It's interesting that one of the slots for the Skype interview is in November. Based on that, I doubt anyone in the pool will see a class date this year. Who knows.
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Old 09-05-2017 | 11:46 AM
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There is no pool, thats why there are no classes. They cant get enough pilots to run a class.
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Old 09-05-2017 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sherpster
There is no pool, thats why there are no classes. They cant get enough pilots to run a class.
No, there are no classes because they aren’t hiring. There is no pool because people are not putting up with the hoops NetJets is making them jump through.
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Old 09-08-2017 | 04:18 AM
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Did my phone interview nearly 3 weeks ago. Haven't heard a peep since. Kinda odd since she told me that it would probably be within the week they'd schedule the skype interview - at which point i planned to decline the job and further interviews.
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Old 09-08-2017 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
It was only great place to go during that time because they were the only ones hiring. It was refuge for furloughed airline pilots and NetJets was already in desperation mode trying to hire every warm body they could, that’s why hundreds of pilots were upgraded to captain during their new hire indoc or shortly after. When the airlines look good NetJets has never come close.

I guarantee you that if upgrades were at 15 years back then, none of the cheerleaders would have stuck around.
Jetlife pretty much summed up NJA with this statement.

As mentioned before with the pilot shortage at the airlines, you are better off going to a regional airline. Upgrade to captain is faster and the experienced gained will benefit your career. Flow through is not bad either.

This is something that NJA can't offer except for being a flying butler.
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Old 09-14-2017 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kingairfun
I know guys hired in late 2005 that are no closer to upgrade than they were in 2010...

5-7yr upgrades are a near impossibility. It's simple math
This is correct.

Any new hires will have difficulty upgrading EVER. Two reasons:

1: The company has NO plans to grow. In fact they continue to discuss shrinking the fleet. All these shiny new planes are just replacemts (gain one, lose one).
2. And as everyone knows, there is no retirement age in this industry. Sadly, NJ just had a 75 year old guy pass away. There are two pilots who are 79 on the seniority list. The baby boomers only "retire" via loss of medical or death.

Long story short, if you want to work at NJ, do it for better quality of life if you are already a 91/135 pilot and look long and hard at the FO pay, because that's it. Our otherwise the regional to major career path has never looked better. Cheers.
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Old 09-15-2017 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Cldsfr79
This is correct.

Any new hires will have difficulty upgrading EVER. Two reasons:

1: The company has NO plans to grow. In fact they continue to discuss shrinking the fleet. All these shiny new planes are just replacemts (gain one, lose one).
2. And as everyone knows, there is no retirement age in this industry. Sadly, NJ just had a 75 year old guy pass away. There are two pilots who are 79 on the seniority list. The baby boomers only "retire" via loss of medical or death.

Long story short, if you want to work at NJ, do it for better quality of life if you are already a 91/135 pilot and look long and hard at the FO pay, because that's it. Our otherwise the regional to major career path has never looked better. Cheers.
And realize that we are now and will continue to be short on pilots. So your days will be long (12+ hours) and your nights short (10, maybe 11 hours). Every day. Your travel days will include flying 2-3 legs upon your arrival after you airline, sometimes after a 4 hour airline leg....and that just plain sucks. You will probably be denied every request for time off unless it is an family emergency (NJA is very good with this kind of thing). But it better be an emergency. Moving across the country? Denied, we are understaffed. Your problem. Wife having a baby? You will have an airline booked by NJA in minutes. Go figure.
But the pay is pretty god and the health plan is 100% paid by the company....only the $20 deductibles for visits are paid by you, and that's pretty darn good.
So in a nutshell: if you are fine with being a career FO, working long and resting short, and need a good medical plan, give it a try.
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