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Old 01-15-2018, 05:23 PM
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AND that 7/7 schedule may not be available to you. After training, it is up to them if you get the 7/7 until the next October. They love that crew "choice" schedule...18-20 workdays a month. You may get 6/3/6/3/6/3 and spend the first day and a half of each of those glorious 3 days off spent face down asleep the way we work. And if you are a west coast pilot, God help you on the 0300 east coast shows...to your body, that's waking up at 11 pm to start a nice 12 hour work day. Best part? They simply do not care to schedule away from this.
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Old 01-15-2018, 05:58 PM
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AND that 7/7 schedule may not be available to you. After training, it is up to them if you get the 7/7 until the next October. They love that crew "choice" schedule...18-20 workdays a month. You may get 6/3/6/3/6/3 and spend the first day and a half of each of those glorious 3 days off spent face down asleep the way we work. And if you are a west coast pilot, God help you on the 0300 east coast shows...to your body, that's waking up at 11 pm to start a nice 12 hour work day. Best part? They simply do not care to schedule away from this.
Yup, unless you live on the west coast, it’s hard to comprehend how much harder work life is there. Good point about the possibility of 7/7 not being available.
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver View Post

Rumored total new hires for all of 2018 is somewhere between 100-150. Like most things, I'll believe it when I see it.
The difference between this year and last is that "the bench" is empty. I believe over a 100 guys that were doing "projects" are now back flying the line. That offset some of the guys that quit. Management doesn't have that card to play again so I think they will be forced to actually hire 150 this year. I don't see attrition slowing and the pilots are already operating at 100%.

Time will tell.
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by amaineiac View Post
The difference between this year and last is that "the bench" is empty. I believe over a 100 guys that were doing "projects" are now back flying the line. That offset some of the guys that quit. Management doesn't have that card to play again so I think they will be forced to actually hire 150 this year. I don't see attrition slowing and the pilots are already operating at 100%.

Time will tell.
What do you mean? They were on LOA?

Well if they want 100-150, they are gonna need more than 5 a class. Only getting 5 should be sending a tidal wave through HR and management, to get 100 people to show up they will have to massive interviewing.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by amaineiac View Post
The difference between this year and last is that "the bench" is empty. I believe over a 100 guys that were doing "projects" are now back flying the line. That offset some of the guys that quit. Management doesn't have that card to play again so I think they will be forced to actually hire 150 this year. I don't see attrition slowing and the pilots are already operating at 100%.



Time will tell.


You can get these numbers off of duty summary reports and the number of people on projects was closer to 30. The cc 76 and +/- 2 are allowing them to do way more with less.


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Old 01-16-2018, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tm602 View Post
AND that 7/7 schedule may not be available to you. After training, it is up to them if you get the 7/7 until the next October. They love that crew "choice" schedule...18-20 workdays a month. You may get 6/3/6/3/6/3 and spend the first day and a half of each of those glorious 3 days off spent face down asleep the way we work. And if you are a west coast pilot, God help you on the 0300 east coast shows...to your body, that's waking up at 11 pm to start a nice 12 hour work day. Best part? They simply do not care to schedule away from this.


A newhire would be able to bid and hold a 7/7 line on the first schedule bid after their checkride. Not necessarily "the next October". It is up to the company whether they will award a pilot released from IOE outside of a bid, as of late they have not been.

That being said, this place is a dumpster fire at the moment and is having gas thrown on it. Labor/mgmt relations are bad and trending worse. No clue what the end game is here, but it isn't sustainable.
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Old 01-16-2018, 01:39 PM
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Once upon a time before the current contract, a long Long time ago, I applied to work at Net Jets as a pilot, and was offered a position, but did not accept the offer. I have heard that if one were to reapply, after turning NJA down, that person would not be considered.

Retirement is coming in September, Part 121, and I would still like to work. Would I be considered as a pilot candidate??
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Old 01-16-2018, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Allegheny View Post
Once upon a time before the current contract, a long Long time ago, I applied to work at Net Jets as a pilot, and was offered a position, but did not accept the offer. I have heard that if one were to reapply, after turning NJA down, that person would not be considered.

Retirement is coming in September, Part 121, and I would still like to work. Would I be considered as a pilot candidate??
Since the company is trying to impose a mandatory age 65 retirement whether through policy (legal challenge awaits) or through legislation, I would guess your resume won't make the "interview" pile. Illegal under the current paradigm but likely nonetheless...
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:17 PM
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Retirement is coming in September, Part 121, and I would still like to work.
Why? You’re 65. Get a life. Retire. Stop insisting on threatening the safety of aircraft because you’re too greedy/selfish to know when you can’t safely do this anymore.

You’re not welcome at NJ. Nor should you be.
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Old 01-16-2018, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Nachomamma View Post
Why? You’re 65. Get a life. Retire. Stop insisting on threatening the safety of aircraft because you’re too greedy/selfish to know when you can’t safely do this anymore.

You’re not welcome at NJ. Nor should you be.

Don't mince words V, tell us how you really feel...
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