Silver Airways
#2101
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Yeah, 11 Bang Bang pretty much says it all. I did 2 tours in the infantry.. made the switch to 15T- UH-60 Blackhawk Repairer... that's a fun job, but I don't like how the army treats people. Not complaining but this is why I WANT a change from the Army to particularly the AF- The infantry, without ranger or SF, doesn't really give you any skills you can use outside of law enforcement, nor do they even WANT anyone with infantry/combat experience in FL.
I went through reclass training for 15T. After 2 tours and being an NCO.. the other prior-service guys got treated like absolute crap by the permanent party instructors. The new AF enlistees were treated a lot better than us and even had better housing. Their professionalism impressed.. so that's why. But that's neither here nor there....
Thanks for the info on Silver guys. Does a lot have to do with being a "new" airline with your typical growing pains or do they still have the same people from Gulfstream?
I went through reclass training for 15T. After 2 tours and being an NCO.. the other prior-service guys got treated like absolute crap by the permanent party instructors. The new AF enlistees were treated a lot better than us and even had better housing. Their professionalism impressed.. so that's why. But that's neither here nor there....
Thanks for the info on Silver guys. Does a lot have to do with being a "new" airline with your typical growing pains or do they still have the same people from Gulfstream?
#2102
On Reserve
Joined: Sep 2012
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From: A-320 FO
Another Tango I remember those days at ft useless when I went through. There's still remnants of gulfstream when it comes to staff and employees. Like mentioned before it has it's issues, which I know can inpatient most peeps, I'm just used to the hurry up and wait mentality so just take it with a grain of salt. There are still many good people here, especially in the pilot group. Expect most likely basing up north seems like Florida is filling up for FOs.
It's got it's issues but the flying is fun And has its challenges as well. Just realize the fun always has a dark side to it. But if you're patient and have the attitude to overcome and adapt the. You will be alright.
It's got it's issues but the flying is fun And has its challenges as well. Just realize the fun always has a dark side to it. But if you're patient and have the attitude to overcome and adapt the. You will be alright.
Ft. Useless was terrible. I was pretty fortunate to have 15T instructors that were very... very good. The permanent party guys in charge of the barracks were all washouts from the instructor courses. My roommate was/is an airline pilot, so we had a lot of similar interests. Outside of Useless was absolutely gorgeous... but it was cold and snowing, hence why I live in sunny south florida
#2103
Yeah, I don't mind the hurry up and wait mentality. If I ever get an opportunity to interview and even get a Conditional Offer, what would a commute look like from RSW to one of their north bases?
Ft. Useless was terrible. I was pretty fortunate to have 15T instructors that were very... very good. The permanent party guys in charge of the barracks were all washouts from the instructor courses. My roommate was/is an airline pilot, so we had a lot of similar interests. Outside of Useless was absolutely gorgeous... but it was cold and snowing, hence why I live in sunny south florida
Ft. Useless was terrible. I was pretty fortunate to have 15T instructors that were very... very good. The permanent party guys in charge of the barracks were all washouts from the instructor courses. My roommate was/is an airline pilot, so we had a lot of similar interests. Outside of Useless was absolutely gorgeous... but it was cold and snowing, hence why I live in sunny south florida
#2104
Yeah, I don't mind the hurry up and wait mentality. If I ever get an opportunity to interview and even get a Conditional Offer, what would a commute look like from RSW to one of their north bases?
Ft. Useless was terrible. I was pretty fortunate to have 15T instructors that were very... very good. The permanent party guys in charge of the barracks were all washouts from the instructor courses. My roommate was/is an airline pilot, so we had a lot of similar interests. Outside of Useless was absolutely gorgeous... but it was cold and snowing, hence why I live in sunny south florida
Ft. Useless was terrible. I was pretty fortunate to have 15T instructors that were very... very good. The permanent party guys in charge of the barracks were all washouts from the instructor courses. My roommate was/is an airline pilot, so we had a lot of similar interests. Outside of Useless was absolutely gorgeous... but it was cold and snowing, hence why I live in sunny south florida
At least Virginia Beach had some beautiful women of all kinds, that much I remember. if you somehow got luck to get FLL/MIA you could always drive that from RSW, I wouldnt depend my commute ona saab or 1900. RSW has direct flights to DCA if you had to end up going to a Dulles base or outstation. GLH still has FO slots, that you have DL to ATL and then over to GLH on us (after oct 1). If you got 1900 in CLE you got looks like UA flight still to CLE to get there. BIL which is pretty senior now you have MSP to connect through as well as DEN on frontier. So RSW has decent options.
If youre interested get your stuff in and I guess try to get your name out there to get an interview and I figure as long as you meet time requirements now you should be ok. I think they still do the frasca sim eval, I do not know how accurate my gouge on willflyforfood is now.
If you have any questions feel free to PM me.
#2106
FLL might have all three overnights in the bahamas while AOO/SHD/CKB/ETC are all day trips and MAYBE......MAYBE one IAD overnight.
At least with the day trips you'll know when your buddies get in to chill!
#2107
I disagree. There is a complete lack of respect here. They don't abide by the contract, and don't do simple things that are expect of an employer.
For example everyone in my class had issues getting enrolled in healthcare. You are required to turn your paperwork in 30 days before your eligible, but they waited until the day before we were supposed to be enrolled to turn it in to cigna, and then they screwed it up. The HR lady stood in our class and told us the company would contribute $1000 to the HSA plan, she said it several times. When I did finally get enrolled I only got a fraction of that. I emailed her about it and she said "oh, its prorated, sorry if I wasn't clear about that" (she wasn't not clear, she intentionally sandbagged us into that plan because its cheaper for the company.) I'm STILL not enrolled in my 401k, even though I've put in weekly calls to the provider as well as HR.
Scheduling doesn't honor seniority for reserve call outs. If you call scheduling you're lucky if they answer on the 2nd try. Once they do answer expect them to talk over you and say "let me call you back" just to get you off the line. If you call someone at HQ don't expect them to answer. If you leave a message don't expect them to call you back.
Don't expect them to honor seniority when they assign bases AFTER your training is done, they'll stick you where they've got a spot and where is convenient. Even if someone junior to you ends up getting the spot you wanted.
I have worked at 2 other regionals. If you are coming here as a street captain there is maybe some excuse to put up with this kind of stuff. But with everyone being at the same minimum requirements these days... if you're going in as an FO do yourself a favor and go to the Skywest/Horizon/Air Wisconsins of the world. Not only will you get treated with more respect but the time you earn will be more beneficial to your resume.
For example everyone in my class had issues getting enrolled in healthcare. You are required to turn your paperwork in 30 days before your eligible, but they waited until the day before we were supposed to be enrolled to turn it in to cigna, and then they screwed it up. The HR lady stood in our class and told us the company would contribute $1000 to the HSA plan, she said it several times. When I did finally get enrolled I only got a fraction of that. I emailed her about it and she said "oh, its prorated, sorry if I wasn't clear about that" (she wasn't not clear, she intentionally sandbagged us into that plan because its cheaper for the company.) I'm STILL not enrolled in my 401k, even though I've put in weekly calls to the provider as well as HR.
Scheduling doesn't honor seniority for reserve call outs. If you call scheduling you're lucky if they answer on the 2nd try. Once they do answer expect them to talk over you and say "let me call you back" just to get you off the line. If you call someone at HQ don't expect them to answer. If you leave a message don't expect them to call you back.
Don't expect them to honor seniority when they assign bases AFTER your training is done, they'll stick you where they've got a spot and where is convenient. Even if someone junior to you ends up getting the spot you wanted.
I have worked at 2 other regionals. If you are coming here as a street captain there is maybe some excuse to put up with this kind of stuff. But with everyone being at the same minimum requirements these days... if you're going in as an FO do yourself a favor and go to the Skywest/Horizon/Air Wisconsins of the world. Not only will you get treated with more respect but the time you earn will be more beneficial to your resume.
#2108
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things

A little something for the ladies/Bon Jovi fans of the forum.
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#2109
I'm surprised at the +1 comment for the post by joethepilot which was certainly not very flattering to Silver.
Has the shine really worn off that quickly?
USMCFLYR
#2110
It's not completely off. It's frustrating sometimes, but the flying makes up for the stuff that goes on. Joethepilot spoke the truth about the growing pains, which is what these issues boil down to. It's still a good company to be at, and I'm glad I'm here.
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