Great Lakes' Part 135 plan
03-19-2014, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
They have. People are getting offers with 500 hours. My question is can a 500 hour wonder shoot adf approaches and use an rmi and still get through training. 
Originally Posted by Temocil27
Any instrument rated pilot should
Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
How do you figure? NDB's are going away and having the instrument rating doesn't mean you have seen every single approach.
Originally Posted by ovrtake92
Do you think that with the 135 plan that this will be the first time that GLA has hired 500 hour pilots?
Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
Of course not. I just have a few friends over there that said their training wasn't easy. Not saying a 500 hour pilot won't make it. I am just interested to know who does and who doesn't.
Originally Posted by block30
I do respect the fundamental IFR skills of the Lakes pilot group. I haven't worked there, but have heard good things about the training and the pilot group. I have heard the training is rigorous. I am disapointed the pilots weren't able to attain a better contract, though.
03-19-2014, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
GLA training is the most intense thing I've ever done... and this was almost 15 years ago. While most airlines approach training as a collaborative effort, GLA treats it like military boot camp... of 12 people who begun training with me 3 of us made it online.
03-19-2014, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
This report is true to many others I have read and makes me wonder how many newbies would apply if they knew what was going to happen to them at this company. Internet dissemination of rumors does not seem to put much of a damper on their behavior. Assuming most applicants know what they are in for, it suggests a kind of desperation or madness on the part of the applicants. I would be morbidly curious to read a psych study of them given how eager they are for such a punishing, low paying experience.
But yeah, in this modern era when you can know everything about a company after a couple hours of research, and the jet operators are bribing people to show up for class, you'd have to be a special kind of stupid to go work for GLA. Or ridiculously low time...
03-19-2014, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
If great mistakes had been approved for this 9 seat 135-sh** show, wouldn't they have made an announcement/press release so all the wet commercials would know to apply to them?
I heard from someone who used to work there that their part 135 certificate has not been ‘officially’ approved by the FAA yet, and that it might take a least another month. Any GLA pilot willing to clarify this?
03-19-2014, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
GLA training is the most intense thing I've ever done... and this was almost 15 years ago. While most airlines approach training as a collaborative effort, GLA treats it like military boot camp. While most talk you through the systems and performance, GLA says "You better study". While most slowly work you up in the sim, focusing on company procedures, GLA throws you in day one with ADF partial panel and single engine approaches. They have always had a policy that instrument skills are paramount because of the archaic flying they do, and lack of autopilots/flight directors. And I would dare say pilots who make it through that program have instrument skills that are the best of the best. Of 12 people who begun training with me 3 of us made it online. None of them had less than 1000 hours. I can't imagine <500 hr wonders making it through that unless they plan to start spoon feeding it.
Why people think GLA training is 'cool' or 'badass' is perplexing. It sucks. Plain and simple.
03-19-2014, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bernouli
There's nothing impressive about a training department that takes pride in how 'hard' their training is. Training for any airline can be enjoyable or difficult based on the quality of the training department. A high washout rate means the training sucks, not the pilot.
Why people think GLA training is 'cool' or 'badass' is perplexing. It sucks. Plain and simple.
Why people think GLA training is 'cool' or 'badass' is perplexing. It sucks. Plain and simple.
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